chargerboy
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Disk usage meter
Hi, what would be the normal range for the disk usage meter when you have ..lets say 8 or 9 audio tracks going at once. MY hard drive is 160GB at7200rpm with about 70% free space . I am not experiencing any problems but I was just curious because the CPU meter was pretty low at about 15 percent and my disk usage went up to 72% a few times(it doesnt stay there, it just peaks to that sometimes). Is that normal? I just always thought it would be the opposite, lower disk reading and higher CPU reading. I have a second hardrive installed thats 320GB for my video..and it has a ton of space..like about 95% free space. Does it make a difference on the size of your hardrive rather than how much free space..because I obviously have quite a bit a free space on both..just curious.....Thankyou
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John
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 16:43:38
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It should stay around less then 10%. Something is up with your system. There is almost no load on you disk with 8-10 tracks. What are your file size, thats bit depths and sample rate?
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 16:45:15
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 16:46:09
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Check to see if you don't need to defragment your drives. Also, note that certain FX and soft synths can really crank up the disk usage and CPU indicators. HTH, Ed
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John
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 16:54:12
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Also, note that certain FX and soft synths can really crank up the disk usage and CPU indicators. How?
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chargerboy
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:02:11
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My computer is hooked to the internet..would that make a difference..?
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RE: Disk usage meter
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:02:38
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There are certain CPU intensive plugs that can chew up a lot of cycles. This list may also include sample playback based items. That's what I meant. I don't use soft synths myself, but I have heard others on this forum report similar experiences with them. Hope this clarifies, Ed
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:05:38
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What if he is using 64 bit A/Ds and running at 768k using 1000 tracks? Would that make a difference? Ed I have you beat. I think I bought Cake 3 in like 1947 after the Roswell Crash. It was this purple/black thing. It came on like 85" floppies that doubled as carports.
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:21:55
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There are certain CPU intensive plugs that can chew up a lot of cycles. This list may also include sample playback based items. That's what I meant. I don't use soft synths myself, but I have heard others on this forum report similar experiences with them. Hope this clarifies, Ed I can't say I have heard this or have seen it in my setup. I do use soft synths and soft samplers. The most intensive FX plug ins I have show no impact on disk usage. The statement was that it will do so. That is way too absolute. I would modify it with it may or could. I have seen no evidence that it will at least not to date. I could be very wrong but you seem way to sure about it. I suppose that ones own system would play a role in this. In other words ones mileage may vary.
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:31:39
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Your Recording and playbacl in and out buffers in sonar affect your disk usage, the lower they are the higher the disk usage is. also the lower your latency, the higher the CPU is. Cj
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 17:37:07
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"The statement was that it will do so. That is way too absolute." John, re-read. I said CAN, not will. Twice. Cool?
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 18:03:11
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I told you I have a short memory. What were we talking about?
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/08 18:52:58
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I am currently working on a project (just over 4 minutes total length) that includes the following: Soft-Synths Session Drummer 2 (All Stereo Outputs) Session Drummer 2 again (Cymbal rolls from a custom SFZ file) TTS-1 (a simple piano rhythm, a few percussion SFX fills) TTS-1.2 -- yes, I'm inserting more than one instance -- (Synth bass with a ton of mod wheel events) Native Instruments Elektrik Piano Kompakt (Various percussion fills) Cakewalk's DreamStation DXi (Synth pads X 2) Dimension LE (Experimental Synth pads that actually worked) External Synths 3 MIDI-synched tracks to my Ensoniq ASR-10 (I really wish this unit was still globally supported) Audio Tracks 4 Vocal 1 Bass 2 Acoustic Guitar 2 Electric Guitar 2 Mariachi Trumpets (don't even ask!  ) My CPU meter registers about 25% on average...The Disk meter peaks between 5% & 7%...And the project plays flawlessly...Am I doing something wrong? BTW, I'm still using a computer (COMPAQ Presario SR1350NX) that was purchased off-the-shelf several years ago (but I have tweaked it considerably to meet my expectations)...
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 07:25:03
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ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic Your Recording and playbacl in and out buffers in sonar affect your disk usage, the lower they are the higher the disk usage is. also the lower your latency, the higher the CPU is. Cj CJ ..that particular piece of info was helpful..thanks.. What setting would you recommend for the buffers.?
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 07:47:21
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CJ ..that particular piece of info was helpful..thanks.. What setting would you recommend for the buffers.? I think that sometimes depends on what Audio hardware you are using, for example another client of mine can't reliably run two Delta 1010's below 512 Input and Output buffers and is using 60-80 24 bit Mono tracks. Some Hardware is more forgiving in the driver department. I can safelty run 256 Record and Playback buffers with my RME and 200 Mono 24 bit Audio tracks and this machine is on the internet and office duty too. If your drive is fragmented your Drive usage will increase proportionally. Sometimes depending on your Disk caching settings the first time you playback the Track might be higher than subsequent passes due to disk caching.
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 08:33:04
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ORIGINAL: chargerboy My computer is hooked to the internet..would that make a difference..? Depends on what's happening there! If there is Torrent-traffic  , automatic updates etc. I suppose surprises can take place (???) Sudden, strange jumps in HDD use could well be caused by internet activity, IMO. Some security services can be unbelievably heavy on the system when they automatically launch.
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 09:45:29
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How much RAM do you have? Are you sure that you aren't seeing Windows jumping into your hard drive for paging (swap file)?
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chargerboy
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 11:43:20
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I have 3 gigs..and I have switched the buffers to 512..and even increased the latency
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 11:55:04
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I don't see your computer specs anywhere (except the 160G 7200rpm hard drive and you just said you have 3G RAM). what CPU do you have? what soundcard do you have and which driver mode are you using? what is your latency set to? what about your video card? are you using your motherboard's onboard video card? ALSO - you stated in your original post that you have another hard disk for video. do you have a video capture card or a TV tuner on your computer? these have been known to cause problems with sonar. if so, you may need to create a separate boot profile which disables the TV tuner/video capture card.
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chargerboy
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 12:32:34
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My latency is set at 20ms, As far as my sound card driver mode, I believe its DMA mode, but how would I check that?? I have a separate video card .I do however have a TV tuner capture card.That is a excellent observation on your part.I didnt even think of that. Thanks. I am not a computer whiz, as you can see. I know the basics though but I am not quite sure how to disable it.if I just disconnected the cable from the computer would that do it? Pentium D 3GHz, 3G RAM, Creative Xfi SB live, Sonar 7SE
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 13:13:28
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what kind of cable? usb or firewire would probably be OK, but if you have a PCI card inside your comptuer, then no, that's not going to work.
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chargerboy
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 13:31:27
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I have a pc card hooked inside my computer..When I said cable, I meant the actual cable tv cable that I screw into my tv tuner/ capture card
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Beagle
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 13:37:41
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then, no, that won't work. the problems I'm talking about are driver conflicts between the audio card and the video capture/tv tuner card, so you'll either have to disable the card in windows or remove the card physically. I'm not sure that will solve your problem, either, but it's a possibility.
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chargerboy
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RE: Disk usage meter
2008/07/09 14:11:19
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YES!!... My meter has gone way down!!..I just did some basic tinkering like defragmenting(which I didnt think I really needed because I defragmented my har drive about 2 months ago.. And I unscrewed the actual cable tv hookup from behind my computer(since I only use it when I need to capture stuff for my projects)..And wouldnt ya know- My disk meter peaks at around 9 even after I did a test and doubled the amount of audio tracks to like 16 to see what it does and it just stayed low
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