THE OLD HEADACHE PROBLEM: CLICS AND POPS

Hello people. I hope someone help (any hint or try will be welcome).
I´ve upgraded my system recently and tried Windows Vista 32bit first time (first impression was good).
I have 2 HD SATA, one with all the stuff like internet, games, Photoshop, office, etc......and another ONLY with AUDIO Applications (HOMESTUDIO).
Using Dual Boot (windows xp sp2 on usual HD and now Vista 32 SP1 on HOMESTUDIO)
I´ve just installed Sonar 7 PE, updated (7.0.2) and i´m having that old problem in audio tracks only: NOISE (Clics and pops), when I turn on the echo button. The audio track is recorded so with noise, too bad!. Surprisely, the midi tracks, even with synths inserted normally in audio ones, sounds clear and fine. I´ve tried change all the settings you guys can imagine on audio menu and on my asio panel, trying all combinations possible (changing the latency buffer size up and down, the driver to ASIO, WDM and MME....etc, etc, etc). The same problem.
I have to install many plugins (BFD2, synths like MOOG, etc) but will wait til solve the host problem.

My gear:
- Intel QuadCore Extreme 9650 processor (not OC yet)
- MOBO Rampage Formula
- 4 Gb DIMM DDR2 Viper Patriot 1066Mhz
- SupremeFX II PCI audio card (bundled with MOBO) - installed but not used
- 2 HD SATA 2 (250gb (XP Sp2) / 120 Gb (Vista 32 SP1) )
- NVidia 7900 GTX video PCI-E
- M-Audio FireWire 410 audio unit - THAT´S AUDIO INTERFACE INSTALLED AND USED
- PCR-800 Roland Controller
- EuroRack UB1002 mixer
- 2 monitors Roland
- Guitars, E-guitars, basses and stuff
PS. I´ve installed the latest video and audio drivers (VISTA 32)

So...can you help anyway???

Thanks (and sorry my english mistakes)

Stu:
What's your latency settings. 410 user here btw.

-D

and i´m having that old problem in audio tracks only: NOISE (Clics and pops), when I turn on the echo button. The audio track is recorded so with noise, too bad!.

If the audio track is already recorded, you do not need input echo activated. Is that what your saying????
Cj
Edit. common causes of clicks and pops
1. Clipping
2. Driver config (latency/buff settings)
3. IRQ conflict
4. Using a non up to date driver for your sound card
5. Wrong driver mode (ASIO/WDM)

ORIGINAL: thatonejonguy

+1 on the onboard firewire. I see it uses a via chipset, might be the culprit... try a pci firewire card with a texas instruments chipset.

-Jon

If the Maudio uses a Dice II FW Chipset, then a TI FW chipset is a must in most cases. I dont think the maudio uses that chipset.

1) Yes....when I turn on the echo button (cause It´s the only way I know to listen what I´m playing thru FW 410 Line 1/2 in) the bad noise appears, and ruins my rec. audio track (simply it´s impossible to record any audio with so much noise).
2) I´m using 44 Khz (tried 48 too) with 256 (tried all settings) in ASIO Panel and SONAR Audio menu. 5,8ms of latency.
3) Yes...My 410 is connected on the rear FW onboard. There is on more in front.....maybe!!!

I really really want to thank you all your help. I´d never think that the problem could be the FW chipset (on board in case)
Wll try a PCI FW card (TI you say?????? What is TI ???? Sorry ...I´m not pro....heheheh)

Quote: "Wll try a PCI FW card (TI you say?????? What is TI ?)"

I could be wrong, but I believe that it is the manufacturer "Texas Instruments", or TI for short.
Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong about that. HTH,
Ed

See if you have the same problem with Sonar 7.00/7.01 PE. Try WDM drivers, if you're able.

I´ve tried all drivers (ASIO, WDM and MME)....always with noise....but ONLY in AUDIO tracks, not in MIDI ones. This is very strange. People told me that could be a FW onboard port problem.
And they suggested to disable onboard IEEE and buy a PCI one. I really dont think It´s a 7.0.2 problem....
But I could ask: If the problem is the onboard FW port, why does the noise appear only in audio tracks??????? (the midi sound is routing thru IEEE too I think, cause I´m using Roland PCR-800 USB controller via USB port.......................correct me if I´m wrong about it)
Do you think guys it´s a Vista problem?????? I was using XP SP2 before, but my MOBO was Intel 955 ..and now i´ve upgraded to ASUS Rampage....

Thanks.

Seems like the others have missed a possibility here.

You say that you have two hard disks with dual boot. Does that mean that when you boot into Vista on the second drive, that drive also has the Sonar software and the key bit, do you use the same OS drive for recording the audio?

You may be MUCH better off using a folder on your XP boot disk for all your audio files, as that disk will then have nothing to do other than stream audio. Using the same disk for OS, Application AND audio files is always risky for pops and clicks.

EDIT: From you last post, the fact that you have the problem even with MME drivers also tends to point to a disk streaming problem rather than interface - not conclusively but more likely.