NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE

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2008/09/06 12:01:57 (permalink)

NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE

hey people, here`s my latest work but i don`t no what genre to put it in help me please
A DUMB WAR
many thanks alank(alkie).

Shortened and didn`t repeat speech in new version.
post edited by alkie - 2008/09/06 17:35:27


Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
because he knows the time is short.....
let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
it`s number is.....
666

So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 13:03:26 (permalink)
    Alkie

    I also oppose war. But when people are killing my fellow countryman and their own countryman just on the basis of religon, then these people must be stopped.

    When good men turn their backs on evil, evil flourishes and mankind loses.

    The song is well made and well mixed and the guitar is great.

    Thank God we live in countries where we have the right to say as we wish. However misguided that may be.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 13:04:06 (permalink)
    Lots of nice playing here.

    Sweet sounding lead guitar at 3:46

    genre????.....hmmmm....perhaps propagandapop? or pop-aganda?

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 13:06:59 (permalink)
    it started out nice, but with all of the effects, it was a bit hard for me to listen to. You may want to use them a bit less "liberally..."

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 13:21:30 (permalink)
    I can't help you with the genre. Sorry. But I thought it was well-mixed!
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 13:59:58 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: No How

    pop-aganda?

    That's funny, I think you've coined a new phrase

    This is a very interesting piece and it is certainly clear in its message. I too liked the lead guitar work. Overall, I liked it but if were me, I would eliminate the repeating of the quotes in the first section, making the song a little shorter. Good job!

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 14:11:22 (permalink)
    Loved all the guitar playing. I'd put it in Prog-Rock genre. I have to agree with tcaylor about the repeating of the quotes. Cut it back a little as it starts to get lost. Pretty acoustic in the beginning and on the end.


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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 17:33:37 (permalink)
    thanks to all the replies. I`ve shortened it and only used the speech once no repeats exept for the little blurbs, im thinking other alternative as genre since i can`t pick pop-oganda on soundclick. We have a show called pop-oganda here on muchmusic be really cool if soundclick made that a genre we could pick. thanks again to everyone.

    P.S robby what are u listening through, i didn`t add any effects i left most of the loops as is.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 18:46:15 (permalink)
    heh, I meant like the effect of the sirens and the crowds? I'll listen again in a bit, going out to play frizbee with the boy :-)

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 19:32:08 (permalink)
    Oh i get it frisbees more important than my so called hobby LOL
    cool thanks robby the sirens were in the original loop that i started the idea of the song from.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 21:10:47 (permalink)
    Well that sucked.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/06 22:02:47 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: tdye

    Well that sucked.


    thanks for the constructive critisism tom.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/07 06:20:19 (permalink)
    Alan,
    I don't agree with the message, but I found the song to be very interesting and creative. The mix sounds pretty darn good too. The lead guitar was especially good. Nice work!

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/07 08:49:05 (permalink)
    On Soundclick there is a Battles/Disses category?

    I'm not sure about the use Political standpoints just for the sake of them. (You are asking a question about genre here rather than seriously putting forward a convincing view.) I'm also not qualified to speak about Obama's politics, but from this I didn't get whether this was pro or against him or whether it was protesting or advocating the use of force in Iraq.

    When families donate loved ones, with complete sincerity in the cause of defending their nation's political decisions (on whatever 'side'), I feel it is always courteous to consider their tribulations, it is right to expect controversy when entering into that arena. If you are doing that with conviction and a passion to reinforce a heartfelt view then you will already be equipped to deal with the backlash from those for and against. If the intent is just to be 'clever' then expect someone to say "It sucks".

    As a montage of audio clips it worked well but was about 2 minutes longer than my attention span. Those skills would be highly transferable in producing illustrative audio passages for video work.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/07 10:28:45 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: DarinBad

    Alan,
    I don't agree with the message, but I found the song to be very interesting and creative. The mix sounds pretty darn good too. The lead guitar was especially good. Nice work!


    thanks darinbad, toms reply was probably that he`s not an obama supporter or a barrage of other things, it`s good to hear things suck once in a while it makes you strive to be better.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/07 10:37:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

    On Soundclick there is a Battles/Disses category?

    I'm not sure about the use Political standpoints just for the sake of them. (You are asking a question about genre here rather than seriously putting forward a convincing view.) I'm also not qualified to speak about Obama's politics, but from this I didn't get whether this was pro or against him or whether it was protesting or advocating the use of force in Iraq.

    When families donate loved ones, with complete sincerity in the cause of defending their nation's political decisions (on whatever 'side'), I feel it is always courteous to consider their tribulations, it is right to expect controversy when entering into that arena. If you are doing that with conviction and a passion to reinforce a heartfelt view then you will already be equipped to deal with the backlash from those for and against. If the intent is just to be 'clever' then expect someone to say "It sucks".

    As a montage of audio clips it worked well but was about 2 minutes longer than my attention span. Those skills would be highly transferable in producing illustrative audio passages for video work.



    hey jon, yup your right it`s still too long, i got the speech of of a video on youtube and it`s about 3 mins long, i did cut some parts out and and effected the heck out of them to make those parts stand out. I originally had the speech doubled in 2 sections at almost 6 min long, My fear is having the speech over the whole song to make it shorter then i would feel there were no musical breaks oh well i`m just learning anyway thanks for your input jon

    Cheers ALANK(Alkie)


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/07 10:55:08 (permalink)
    Alt Rock, probably. The acoustic guitar was mixed a bit bright. I think you could have those voice over element come in from left and right call and response style.
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 15:57:51 (permalink)
    First off congratulations for having the courage to make this piece. It certainly did not suck. Musically it was interesting and I think it did a nice job of presenting the message intended. Nor was it too long.

    It is interesting that when the USSR fell, Apartheid collapsed, the Berlin Wall was torn down... I naively rejoiced. I thought the world had suddenly become a better place. Instead the far right Christian fundamentalists started a campaign to force all people to adopt their narrow and outdated world view and the American government (particularly the Republican) became the largest threat to world peace and stability ever seen as there was nobody to stop them. So now the most common reply to somebody objecting to war is to call them "Unamerican" or Unpatriotic, or Unchristian.

    We do not need a War on Terror. We need a War on the Stupid. So I applaud you for the courage I never had. I think its time for the sane to take back the world from the insane. You have inspired me to write the songs I need to write - songs about warmongers, songs about evil Christians like televangelists and those who support war, songs about misguided Christians and the corruption of the Word by greedy men and women who pretend at righteousness (like the extremely scary Palin *shudder* - McCain's running mate) while acumulating vast wealth through the blood of others.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:12:52 (permalink)

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    We do not need a War on Terror. We need a War on the Stupid. So I applaud you for the courage I never had. I think its time for the sane to take back the world from the insane.


    Unfortunately there will be few, if any survivors in that war.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:14:45 (permalink)

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    ORIGINAL: foxwolfen


    We do not need a War on Terror. We need a War on the Stupid. So I applaud you for the courage I never had. I think its time for the sane to take back the world from the insane.


    Unfortunately there will be few, if any survivors in that war.

    ROFL

    Very True.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:22:50 (permalink)
    Long live the queen, ay?

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:25:58 (permalink)
    Are you referring to Elton John?

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:27:11 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: No How

    Unfortunately there will be few, if any survivors in that war.



    Plenty of Double Agents while it lasts tho...it all sounds a bit like 'Catch 22'...

    And btw Shad it WAS too long I'd have defected long before it had finished originally.
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 16:56:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

    ORIGINAL: No How

    Unfortunately there will be few, if any survivors in that war.



    Plenty of Double Agents while it lasts tho...it all sounds a bit like 'Catch 22'...

    And btw Shad it WAS too long I'd have defected long before it had finished originally.

    Actually, I may have listened to the short version (did not notice that he had changed it till now)... so you are right that it might have been too long.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 17:25:02 (permalink)
    thanks shad, glad to know i inspired you. it looks like this might be a political debate thread now. Oh well if you can`t have a good debate about something what`s the sense of talking at all LOL. Shad the original version was almost 6min i cut it to 5:14 so it`s not much shorter. I am currently working on adding video clips to it so i can upload it to you-tube.

    Thanks again to all who listened

    ALANK (Alkie)


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 18:42:04 (permalink)
    Genre - that's easy, it's Folk-Pop-Alternative Rock-Progressive-Talk, better known as FPARPT.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 18:51:36 (permalink)
    Nice one Jon


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 18:58:03 (permalink)
    - that took a lot of thinking, which means that aren't a whole lot of cells left upstairs anymore. I like the song.

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    RE: NEED HELP WITH GENRE FOR NEW TUNE 2008/09/08 19:15:11 (permalink)
    thanks jon this searchin for video clips is killin me.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

    So if JESUS rose from the DEAD
    Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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