I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert...

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2008/09/23 15:05:07 (permalink)

I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert...


I screwed a brass insert into a mic clip, but put the wrong side in first.... So now I can't use a screwdriver to unscrew the insert out from inside of the mic clip... And the insert is gripping the clip more than it's gripping the threads of the mic stand...

Any ideas of how I might somehow get that out?

Sheesh... I might have to order another mic clip from ADK... should be cheap I'd hope...

Dave

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 17:55:04 (permalink)
    The traditional way (I'm a former mechanic) to remove a threaded insert is to take a bolt of suitable size, (I forget the sizes offhand but they are easily obtained at the hardware store) and a nut. Screw the nut on the bolt and gently bottom it out. Screw the bolt (and nut) into the insert. Now use the nut (which is on the bolt) as a locking nut by unscrewing it on the bolt so that it presses tightly against the insert and binds it tightly.

    After you have your lock nut in place you should be able to coax the threaded insert out of the mic clip by unscrewing the botl/nut/insert assembly.

    The alternative is to sacrifice the insert and simply jam a large screwdriver into the guts of the insert and unscrew the insert like it's really important to you to clear the clip.

    You can also try heating and cooling the insert... heating will expand the metal and the plastic a bit. Quick cooling (like with ice) will contract the metal a bit quicker than the plastic and that may provide some ease in unscrewing the insert.

    I recommend the first method I suggested.

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 20:19:30 (permalink)
    I don't know that I'd use heat on a plastic mic clip.... try screwing a bolt into it and removing it that way..... a wrapping of teflon tape on the bolt threads might give enough grab to be able to back it out...... if all else fails, a new mic clip isn't too awful expensive....I have picked up a few in the local music store bargin bin for 50 cent a piece.

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 20:38:01 (permalink)
    teflon is a lubricant... good luck with that.

    Plastic usually has good heat tolerance... I'm not talking about a blow torch here. You can safely try Boiling water? a Hair Dryer? maybe a soldering iron placed directly on the metal? (and not on the plastic) These are all classic techniques.

    But honestly my first suggestion is the best method.

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 22:06:36 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

    teflon is a lubricant... good luck with that.


    Yes, that's true Mike, but teflon tape is widely used in plumbing to wrap around male threads prior to screwing into a female thread - not for lubrication, but to provide a water tight seal over the threads.

    RRabi, another thing to try is a dab of nail polish on the threads of the bolt. Allow it to dry then attempt to unscrew the mic clip. Using a nut to lock the bolt to the clip is a first-rate suggestion if you can get it to seat up tightly against the body of the mic clip. An elegant solution, as we say in engineering.

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 22:21:22 (permalink)
    "Yes, that's true Mike, but teflon tape is widely used in plumbing to wrap around male threads prior to screwing into a female thread - not for lubrication, but to provide a water tight seal over the threads."

    Yes, I've done my share of plumbing and I recall making the transition from thread putty to teflon tape. It's chief benefit is that it serves as a lubricant while you tighten the threads and then it simply becomes a generic material that enhances the seal. If by chance you need to disassemble the joint the teflon once again becomes a lubricant.

    Something about rounded edge inert molecules... :-)

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/23 22:57:58 (permalink)
    Thanks so much for the ideas... I was at a loss... I tried a bunch of stuff that didn't work... which was frustrating, cuz I had a recording session shortly after I discovered the insert was screwed in upside down....

    Dave :)

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 00:18:31 (permalink)
    the bolt with a nut binding to the insert is the best suggestion here that could work non destructively

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 01:20:52 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: RRabbi

    Thanks so much for the ideas... I was at a loss...

    Well, did you manage to get it out, Dave? Don't leave us in suspense like this!!!

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 07:30:30 (permalink)
    wut she said

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 11:16:01 (permalink)
    You could use a plumbers "easy out" and sacrifice the insert. We don't need those over here in the USA anyhow. All our stuff is 5/8" x 27 threads/inch!!

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 11:28:43 (permalink)
    You could use a bolt that fits the inside threads and glue it in. After it dries you should be able to back the entire thing out if the glue holds. The locking nut thing is a good idea if the insert is still sticking out enough beyond the clip body.

    You can also use the T bar tool that is used to repair sprinkler systems, it's like a reem with the teeth reversed.
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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 11:53:59 (permalink)
    Didn't get a chance to try yet... gonna go over to my neighbour's garage and get the bolt to do it... I'll be sure to keep everyone posted! :)

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 12:52:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: RRabbi

    Didn't get a chance to try yet... gonna go over to my neighbour's garage and get the bolt to do it... I'll be sure to keep everyone posted! :)


    By the way don't worry about the brass insert... I have a box full if you need one.
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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 20:27:09 (permalink)
    I ended up getting it out with a pliers and some elbow grease... the threads are still fine too... sortof... heh

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/24 23:51:58 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: ohhey

    You could use a bolt that fits the inside threads and glue it in.

    That's what I suggested, but using nail polish in lieu of Loctite.

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    wut she said

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    post edited by BluesMeister - 2008/09/24 23:54:46

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    RE: I'm an idiot... can't remove a brass mic clip insert... 2008/09/25 06:32:32 (permalink)


    Well, did you manage to get it out, Dave? Don't leave us in suspense like this!!!



    lol I was referring to that statment, and I was saying "thats what she said" without the "thats"

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