Live design using the groove matrix...

I'm contemplating using the groove matrix as a live triggering mechanism for a theatrical sound design front-ended by my M-Audio TriggerFinger. Ideally, I'd like to put a few variations of a sound on successive pads so the operator can "play" a cue with options to make it more or less intense.

What I'm wondering is: can the groove matrix crossfade between triggered elements? So that the sounds blend a little?

And, can you set a cel as a "kill" cel, that stops others playing, and can you assign a fade time to that?

Thanks!

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The people who do this as part of their act and/or their living, put a great deal of preparation and practice into it.

Please report back and let us know how this goes.

I'm contemplating using the groove matrix as a live triggering mechanism for a theatrical sound design front-ended by my M-Audio TriggerFinger.

I won't claim to be a GM expert. I've hardly used it at all, but I will relate a few got'chas to watch out for regarding the MIDI Remote Control.

First off, it's very easy to use the Learn function to 'bind' external controller messages. If you want to trigger from note values, keep in mind that it 'defaults' to Note On / Note Off in the most common approach. That is, you'll need to hold a note to have the core pattern continue to loop, as it will release when you lift your finger from the key. If you'd rather have a latching mechanism - note triggers cell/column; second note releases cell/ column - use Note On instead. You can set this either manually, or by hitting OK in the dialog before releasing the key.

Secondly (and this is more disturbing), the safest MIDI Remote Control approach is to apply it almost as a 'mastering' stage. There are many problems that can occur if you bind controllers first, then begin re-arrangement of the patterns. It's a strange mixture of 'assignment by cell' and 'assignment by pattern'. Forgive any errors here (from memory), but here are some things that I've noticed:

- Dragging a pattern to another row erases the MIDI Remote Control assignment.
- Dragging another pattern on top of an existing one destroys one or both assignments.
- Dragging another instance of the same pattern on top creates a 'phantom' MRC assignment.

This 'phantom' is not related to anything, but it remains in the MIDI Remote Control dialog. It cannot be deleted by normal means.
The 'bailout' procedure is to save the project file, then re-open it again. I'll add more when I'm in the position to revisit this again.

You also could load multi samples onto individual pads in velocity and then assign velocity pads to trigger finger pads. You could control the volumes with different velocities then.

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I'd like to know what you are saying, but all those commas really get in the way. Would you please consider leaving them out?

Thanks.

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you could also use the ds864,,,,,, it's a fantastic layering machine,,,,if all the samples were timestretched,ya know,,,,,,

You also could load multi samples onto individual pads in velocity and then assign velocity pads to trigger finger pads. You could control the volumes with different velocities then.

,,, yes groovy indeed,,, as well,,,,

can't seem to figure out how to set the TF so that hitting the pad again kills the cell outright

Try this...

Right-click on a cell and go into P5s midi learn screen.

There is a tick box for "Note On" and another for "Note On / Off".

Play with those. I could get either result.

ah got that thanks.

But wtf, can the groove matrix do audio? I tried dragging wave files onto it, which it does, but they don't play back.

Also, what determines the playback source: the track selected when you drop the material into a cel, or the track the row lines up with? I'm getting odd results.

But wtf, can the groove matrix do audio? I tried dragging wave files onto it, which it does, but they don't play back.

Don't know, not having that problem. Maybe they need to be acidized?

Also, what determines the playback source: the track selected when you drop the material into a cel, or the track the row lines up with? I'm getting odd results.

Tracks to the left determine the loop's audio settings (like all DAWs). The row of buttons over the cells just trigger the rows all at once. You have options based on where you put a loop.