VVocals

I guess thats the pitch correction program that comes with sonar. Can I purchase this by itself as a plug in? Is it as good as melodyne? finally, can you align a doubled track with it if they are slightly off timing? I heard there are programs that can fix the timeing so the 2 vocal tracks line up almost exact.

VVocal does not come as a separate plug in. I asked about that when it first came out, they seem to have no intention of offering it, but there are others, just a little on the expensive side.
Alligning tracks is easy, but it can be time consuming. Details would help, if I knew what you were trying to acomplish I could better help you.
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Albert

nope, she has Sonar Home Studio 6XL which does not come with V-vocal. v-vocal only comes with Sonar Producer Edition. I have v-vocal, but I don't have melodyne. v-vocal was one of the main reasons I decided to buy Sonar PE instead of sticking with SHS. I was trying at the time to decide between buying melodyne or upgrading to S6PE...I ended up going with S6PE for the other things that were included with it.

I have tried the demo version of melodyne and I think it's probably a better program, although v-vocal is good enough. what I don't like about v-vocal is that it will create artifacts on your vocal track depending on how bad the part is off. if it detects the pitch correctly and it's not far from the target, then v-vocal does a good job, but melodyne seems to be better at detecting the pitch correctly and seems to do better at correcting pitches a little further from the mark than v-vocal can.

however, I do not regret my decision to upgrade to PE. v-vocal is good enough for my purposes for now and the other tools that came with PE were well worth the money since I paid the same price for the upgrade to PE that I would have paid for melodyne.

oooh, hardware. That means an extra box, extra knobs, extra wires, extra lights and meters....what a great idea.
I think with that unit you can run the correction as you sing, so the vocals sound better in real time.
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Albert

Many years back... probably 18 or so, I saw a two man band in Myrtle Beach in a nighclub. Both guys sang & played guitar & bass. I though that they were playing to backing tracks because they had drums, piano, organ, strings, and harmony vocals going on... the music was exceptionally well done. I was thinking they had gone to a nice studio and recorded the backing tracks.

So being a musician, I introduced myself when they took a break, and asked about the backing tracks. The guitar player took the time and showed me their onstage rig. He explained that all the tracks were midi, and played in real time by an old Intel-286 computer (do you remember them???) and the sequencing program was Cakewalk. It sent all the midi to a piano module, a drum module, and all the other instruments modules, as well. I asked about the vocal harmonies...surely they were tape?

No... it turned out they were from a vocal harmonizer that was midi controlled as well... it recieved data at a specific point in the song that told it to produce a major 3rd (or what ever) at that time and hold it for x number of seconds... and ...the lead guitar was also controlled in the same way...switching from lead to rythm as needed and changing tone settings as well.... quite an impressive setup, especially for back then.