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2008/10/17 08:47:34 (permalink)

noob with issues

This is probably going to be the first of many "WHAT THE HELL DO I DO" posts since I'm new to this program so please bear with me. For starters let me tell you what I'm working with. I have a Dell Latitude with a Sigma Tel audio sound card. I am playing through a Line6 ux-1 tone port. I think I'm having problems with my input and output designations. Do I set input and output to the toneport setting or my sound card setting? I've been able to record a few tracks but I don't think I have it set up right. For some reason this is not as easy as I thought it was going to be. if you need more info. let me know. Thanks in advance. Ken
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    Guitarhacker
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 09:13:08 (permalink)
    Keneds...welcome to the forum.

    When you set up the L6TP... did you run the Wave profiler after installing it? I'm not the resident expert on audio issues, but the Wave Profiler allows MC4 to re-initialize it's audio inputs and outputs.

    Does the L6TP show up as a recognized audio in/out?

    Also, the Dell's soundcard is not a good option.... make sure MC4 does NOT use it at all. You specifically want to use the L6TP for all audio in and out.

    hope this helps.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 09:38:15 (permalink)
    Does the L6TP show up as a recognized audio in/out?


    Yes , It does recognize it. Should I disable my stock soundcard or using the toneport settings should do that?
    I suppose I should run the wave profiler after I change the audio settings to toneport?
    Thanks for your help also. Ken
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 09:40:41 (permalink)
    Yes...disable the onboard soundcard...you don't want it trying to do anything with MC4.

    Yes..run the wave profiler after you disable the onboard SC....

    that should solve the problem. L6TP sould be the only option you use in MC.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 09:55:50 (permalink)
    I guess now I should considering upgrading my memory? What is the benefits of doing this?
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 10:08:22 (permalink)
    Depends... how much memory do you now have?

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:14:10 (permalink)
    256mb
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:35:36 (permalink)
    ken,
    256M is not very much in today's computers and depending on the version of MC and the operating system (which you haven't listed) that's only the bare minimum requirements for MC4 running under XP. not only that, but I've found minimums won't get you very far, especially running audio plugins. I would definitely advise more RAM if you can afford it, but what are the rest of your computer specs (including your operating system).

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:39:58 (permalink)
    I agree with Beag... this must be an older computer cause most new ones come with gigs of memory now. Additional specs would also help, because it might not be worth spending money on memory if the other specs are needing upgrades too.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:46:29 (permalink)
    I have......
    Dell latitude D620
    Windows XP professional v. 2002 service pack 3
    80 GB hard drive
    Intel core duo
    T2400 @ 1.83 GHz
    1.83 GHz, 0.99 GB of RAM

    Does this help? Ken
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:48:11 (permalink)
    On todays computers, with todays software, doing a process like recording 1 gig of ram is pretty much a minimum anymore.

    If you run XP 256 is tha amount required for XP alone, If you had 512 then the redording process has only 256 for itself, i ran that way for about two years, and it worked fine, but i also have been doing this for a long time and have made several critical tweaks on the systems. I have 1.5 gigs now on the same system, and it runs sooooooo much better.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:49:47 (permalink)
    yes, but you're saying now that you have 1G of RAM where you said before you had 256M. the 0.99G of RAM reported by windows is actually 1G and you're sharing a small part with your video card. 1G of RAM on an XP machine should be fine for now, I'd only worry about upgrading it if you run into problems while using plugins or synths.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:50:43 (permalink)
    The computer is 3 1/2 yrs. old. It's my work computer. I'm not even considering telling my old lady I need a new laptop. I need to work with the one I own now if you know what I mean.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:54:29 (permalink)
    Yep we all know the drill. The .99 of ram means you have a gig. that should do for now, especially with XP. Go forth and make music.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 11:55:21 (permalink)
    It sounds like a little more ram would'nt hurt me. I can upgrade to 4GB max but maybe I'll move it up to 2 GB of ram.
    The computer specs say that 256mb is stock but my company must have had 1 GB installed.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/17 12:00:45 (permalink)
    The age of a computer means little. I have a desk top that is maybe 6 yrs old.... it still works fine. I've added new hard drives and upgraded the OS... but it still chuggs along just fine. It was my studio in past years.

    What you have should do just fine with MC4 to get you started.... and further on down the road. At some point you'll probably want to upgrade the interface to include midi.... but the audio interface will get you started.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/18 09:44:01 (permalink)
    I finally have all of my input/output issues resolved for now.... Now i'm playing around with recordind with some short recordings just to test the waters. I have a serious problem with distortion / broken up audio during playback. My input levels are not clipping, Could it be a not enough RAM causing this? Sometimes the track plays clearly and then I will rewind it and it plays back distorted.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/18 10:02:42 (permalink)
    try switching to ASIO driver mode since you're using the UX1 and that might help.

    OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVER MODE = ASIO
    close MC
    open MC

    if that doesn't help, let me know and then you'll need to increase your hardware buffers.

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/18 10:42:02 (permalink)
    WELL I'LL BE DAMBED...... That worked. Will these settings remain intact until they are changed,or do I need to make these settings everytime I open the program? Now it's time to find my next problem. Thanks Beagle

    BTW, Do you think I should increase my ram eventhough it seems to work fine. What would the benefits be?

    thanks again.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/18 11:20:38 (permalink)
    Settings should stay put just fine.... as far as memory... see how it runs on the new setting first....

    however, more memory is kinda like more money...you can never have enough of either....!!!

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/18 12:46:59 (permalink)
    Glad that worked! as herb says you only need to set it once and it will stay that way until you change it (which you shouldn't need to do).

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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/19 10:34:13 (permalink)
    Do I have the option in MC4 to create drum tracks with this program? I'm starting to have the need for some drums. What are some other options some of you use. Eventually I'm going to hook up with my drummer to lay down drum tracks but not until I have a good understanding of all the ins and outs of MC4 so I don't waste our time with me concouring the learning curve.
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    RE: noob with issues 2008/10/19 14:45:49 (permalink)
    Read the help file section on "Drum Maps and the Drum Grid Pane". You can use this to draw beats in the Piano Roll View (PRV) that will be played by your MIDI synthesizer or soft synth. That's the way to go with no additional investment.
    Many of the users here work with drum track creation software like EZ Drummer or JamStix. With a few parameters entered by you, they can produce realistic drum tracks, editable by you. I think they have free, limited, trial downloads if you're interested.
    Personally, I like all my songs to be totally mine, including the drums, and I kinda enjoy writing the drum tracks using the piano roll view. And who holds the copyright for these software-created drum tracks? The guy who told the program to do something, or the guy who wrote the program?

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