Editing

the difference is that you can specify the exact time using the SPLIT tool, the scissors work on the snap to grid settings.

a volume envelope might work on that clip, it really depends on the recording and the rest of the mix. i have done that successfully on some clips, on others, not so much.

cutting is actully non-destructive. once you cut the clip, you then have 2 separate clips but if you use the mouse to click and drag the end of the clip past the point where you cut it, you will see that you can restore the clip contents just as before you cut it. until you bounce the clips or bounce tracks, then you loose that ability. in fact BOTH of the clips you produced from cutting will do the same thing. when you split or use the scissors tool, what you are actually doing is cloning that clip, then hiding all the information to the left of that split on the right clip and hiding all the information on the right of the split on the left clip.

if it doesn't work you can always just re-record using the punch-in recording.

Oh no.......

I split the tracks and deleted all the dead space. Then I highlighted all the clips of the track and did "bounce to clips". When I split it did look like the clips shifted a tiny bit, but I wasn't too worried. I should have been, because nothing lines up. I've been trying to nudge them, but I can't seem to get the realigned. What can I do besides starting over. I have the lead vocals and 3 harmony tracks.

I'm not sure I follow you Beagle. I think I need to read that a couple more times for it to sink in!

Thanks Greg, I guess I'm too late for that, unless I have to start over again.

Annette sorry to change the subject...Did you ever get the access to the web account sorted???

Not Hopeful Annette, Tried phoning them from the UK this evening. Kept me waiting for nearly 10 minutes. I hung up as I'm not prepared to fork out a fortune to the phone company.
I've sent an email asking if they could let me have my serial number for MC but I'm not hopeful. RobertB said I should be able to get it from my web account. Hmmmmmm ain't working is it.
Just going to have to play with GTP3 until something happens.
If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful.
Hate to say it Albert but you were right.

Alan

OPTIONS>GLOBAL>GENERAL

make sure this is unchecked:
ALLOW ONLY ONE PROJECT OPEN AT A TIME

I'm not positive that's a feature allowed in SHS. that's where it is in sonar.

I am not completely understanding what is happening with your multiple tracks and cut and paste problems, I'll re-read and see if I can figure out an answer...but...at the top of the screen, in the "edit" drop down, the first one should be "undo". If you run into a problem, and haven't saved yet, you can undo all the way to the beginning of the session. Everything you have done can be "undone', just keep clicking "undo" until you get to the beginning of the problem.
Later
Albert

Here's what happened and where I am right now. I took all the vocals into a new project to work on them. Then I used the split function to cut all the dead space out to reduce background noise. Unfortunately, they all shifted a bit, but I used the nudge feature and eventually got them lined up. The help files says to use cut and paste to import a project into another project. So, I tried that several times, but it imports the 6 tracks into one track in the main project. I even created 6 tracks in the new project, but that didn't help. So, it looks like I'll have to import 1 track at a time, opening and closing each project until I get all 6 tracks done. Unless there is another way to do it? SHS 7 does not allow two projects to be open at the same time; otherwise, this would be a simple task. I have no idea why they did not include it if it is available in SHS 6????

Good idea. Loop explorer is new to me, so I didn't think of it. So, I would have to name each track something else, save it and drop it in. There is a tutorial on that, so I'll do that first. I did manage to get them in the project. It still dumped them in one track but I could drag them to their own track. When I tried that last night, it was splitting into clips, but I had done bounce to clips. So, I'm not sure what was going on.

Thanks for the help Greg.

Annette

Okay, so I ROYALLY messed up the vocals with my editing tactics. So, I re-recorded them again tonight and I'm starting over.

What is the proper way to remove the spaces between the recorded vocals? I can't leave them because there is talking in the background, me banging the mic trying to get comfortable. Oh and my daughter says "don't take such a deep breath before you sing". So I have big breath sounds to get rid of as well. I used the split function last nice. It did like the clips were moving a bit, but I figured it would be okay. I never thought about the snap to grid having an effect on it. It was set at 128th, based on a previous thread I read on the split function.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please and thank you!

Do the clips ever shift on you when you use the split function? Do you bounce to clip(s) afterword? I can't figure out what I did wrong, but it was a nightmare getting it back into place to the point it was much easier to record the vocals over again (of course this time I had to have 4 parts; not all big parts, but still 4 tracks).

I can try the envelopes. I've done them once before (as a practice). But if I can figure out what went wrong with the splitting that would be good. Maybe I'll copy the new tracks into a new project and try it again.

thanks.

I would suggest making a backup of your projects before editing, just in case you need to recover from a major mistake.

I've noticed when splitting any track, it appears to move a little, but I think it's an optical illusion, since they always play back correctly.

Thanks guys,

I did have the originals, but decided (after working on them for many hours) that I wasn't 100% happy with them. I think some of the timing was off a bit on the vocals. So I started from scratch, hoping to get a better recording after reading some pointers on recording vocals. I'll try the split again today and see how it goes.

Wish me luck!