Price of the v-studio

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2008/11/08 01:04:32 (permalink)

Price of the v-studio

i have payed for Sonar Pro 8. the new Sonar v-studio 700 comes with Sonar Pro 8. what i want to know is will there be a cut in price for people who dont need the software side and just want the hardware studio. and if so what will that price be. i dont know what the v-studio is even going to sell for, with or without the software.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/08 02:08:49 (permalink)
    if you read the previous posts you'll see you get a $200 credit if you already have SONAR Producer - maybe Studio, too.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/08 19:26:22 (permalink)
    I hear that it costs $4200 so u get a rebate lol
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/09 04:21:12 (permalink)
    your not kidding. $600.00 software and i get a $200.00 credit. i would love to have it, but not if i dont get $600.00 off the price. i love Roland synths, so having the built in Roland synth is very cool. but no matter how bad i want it, i will not pay for software twice. i could never get my cash back from eBaying the old software. i have all the software in it but Rapture pro. i dont know...Cakewalk has always been good to the people that come back to them. i am on my 4th Cakewalk studio. i got my first in 1998, and the forth one last month. its going to make me mad as hell if i am only given a $200.00 credit. and what i'll be mad about is the fact that i really want it, but wont buy it.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/09 18:14:28 (permalink)
    RElax just buy it used wait 6 months and someone will just hate theirs and you can pick it up fohalf price,
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/09 23:57:00 (permalink)
    I have all 8 versions of Sonar. Can is get $200 each?

    This looks cool but probably beyond my budget.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/11/14 10:30:16 (permalink)
    Ditto...a little 2 expensive for me...even though I've been a Cake user since Cakewalk v9 and own Roland's VG-8 and VG-88. I'll probably spring for another audio interface soon. But it won't be the V-700 at this price point.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/13 15:36:41 (permalink)
    Motorized anything cost the bucks Check out Les Pauls new Robot guitar. Sold cheap at first for intrest resons and once they take off up goes the price. Roland is great equip I might add, but 4,600.00 to much for my click of a mouse. Anyway I want one of those beatiful Les Pauls and that will come first and not that robot thing. Tunning with your ear is way important. Only good if your band switches up tunning alot in live gigs. then it would be worth the buy.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/15 13:56:44 (permalink)
    I own an Roland studio package Pro II. So I guess this piece of hardware will have my attention for quite some time.

    In the meantime, I would love to see some photos of this piece of gear in an argosy desk.....

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/23 17:59:54 (permalink)
    Yes, for some this may be beyond the budget, but remember that this package is the full boat of what Cakewalk has to offer. It must be known that this is an AMAZING opportunity for studios, and production houses, large or small to utilize every feature Cakewalk offers in one valuable mega-package.


    Where else can you get all of this for $4,000?

    -The most powerful 64-bit DAW out there
    -Fully customizable motorized control surface
    -Matching I/O with 19 simultaneous inputs
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    -The ability to add an ARX expansion card!?
    -50+ Plug-in's
    -14+ Software Synth's
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    -Not to mention the totally awesome T-Bar!


    Despite what you've bought in the past, if you want to use the latest tools, the best PC DAW out there, and control it all with a very intuitive, and smart control surface, then the VS700 recording system is the perfect solution. Our customers have asked us to include everything under the sun from new plug-in's, to more VI's, to flight simulators, etc. and here is the answer (minus the flight simulator and the kitchen sink).

    I believe that $4,000 isn't much for everything you're getting here. We've done the home-work for you already.
    No system you can assemble yourself will be as seamless, powerful, and affordable as the one system we have designed for you here.

    As far as the rebate, the $200 rebate was created to repay the people who upgraded from 7 to 8, who wanted to have S8 the day of release, but now want to pick up a V-Studio. We seem to forget that when you buy software, and then a newer version comes out, you still used the software for that period of time. You're not forced to upgrade, although that's something that you may want to do. The software doesn't delete itself when a newer version comes out. You own that license forever. It's yours.

    Question: How much did you think it would cost to get all of the Cakewalk ingenuity, power, and technology in one powerful system?

    Answer = $4195.00

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/24 19:18:26 (permalink)
    Right. Or you could just separate the components and lower the price like just about everyone has asked for.




    With the complete package you are forcing not only the software but the I/O and a synth....in which just about every single person on this forum already has and took time saving, researching, and contemplating to get the best quality they could for the style of music they enjoy composing and what they could afford. It doesn't take a marketing genius to realize you guys should be selling the CS separate. Perhaps you will.
    post edited by GAMBLE - 2008/12/24 19:32:50
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/24 19:26:55 (permalink)
    It's going to be slow in coming due to the "business" arrangement between Roland and Cakewalk. I'm no insider, but it's obvcious that the collaberation on this peice of equipment had some conditions. Personally, I'd love to have the whole package as it is. I need a hardware Synth associated with Rolands sounds. The focus on the I/O has been biased toward the eight anaolog inputs while ignoring the ADAT-light hookup. I'm planning on getting one and hoking it through my Motu 2408 via ADAT-light.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2008/12/24 19:34:36 (permalink)
    It's going to be slow in coming due to the "business" arrangement between Roland and Cakewalk.



    Roland isn't known for listening to the end user....at all. And the approach to this product is typical Roland.

    You guys have fun with those ultra cheap faders.
    post edited by GAMBLE - 2008/12/24 19:42:11
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/08 09:20:24 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: GAMBLE
    Roland isn't known for listening to the end user....at all. And the approach to this product is typical Roland.


    My expiereince with Roland says their listening skills are excellent. I've always recieved superior customer service from them...and they've gone out of their way to help me be able to be as creative as possible with their products I use.
    My relationship with them goes way back to the days of the first Juno and the SDE-1000/SDE-3000 digital delays.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/09 20:20:44 (permalink)
    Don't worry, they'll start selling the parts separately once they realize the limited number of people wanting to buy the whole enchilada...

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/10 14:37:41 (permalink)
    Everybody that already has interfaces they're happy with wants the control surface <--( me included). I think too much attention has been focused on the USB connection on the I/O. I don't see any reason why the I/O can't be hooked up as a peripheral to your existing interface. The hardware Synth included should be perfect for my Roland keyboard-workstation adding newer sounds and patches and routing abilties.
    I think it's worth $4195.00

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/18 01:59:40 (permalink)
    I was totally onboard until the guy at teh AES booth told me it was USB. Then he tried to convince me that Roland has magic USB asics that fix all USB problems.
    Thing about that is, I am already running everything else in here off of USB. I dont want my mouse or my ext hard drive to be able to glitch my audio interface!
    I am hoping there is a V750 or V800 on the horizon. Heck I hope this is just the start of a whole product line.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/23 17:10:06 (permalink)
    FWIW: I'm not getting an glitches at all with the VS700 - USB mouse, keyboard, and keyboard controller and all.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/23 17:29:03 (permalink)
    I am sure it is great and all. I am an IT professional and one of the things we always try to do is to segment data streams. Basically have one data stream for control, one data stream for communication, another for source data to be acted on etc. Like a web server might have 4 data ports on back;
    0 outside world
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    2 administration
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    and then on top of that it'll likely have a disk subsystem hanging off a SCSI port for its database.
    but then I tend to overbuild stuff to the point of insanity for my DAWs.
    Like I said above, I sincerely hope this is the begining of a whole product line. hopefully the bakers will come out with smaller ones that are more bedroom studio oriented and larger ones with MADI and firewire and such.
    USB aside I certainly like the controller and the audio being in 2 different boxes!

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/25 05:01:49 (permalink)
    To Rick Curtis:

    A big problem is that you are double charging your best customers, the people who already bought Sonar 8 Produce Edition. Especially home studio guys like me. I understand that the product is worth $4K but I already spent $500 for v8 Producer Edition. The product should cost $3500 for customers like me.




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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/25 05:13:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cdickey

    To Rick Curtis:

    A big problem is that you are double charging your best customers, the people who already bought Sonar 8 Produce Edition. Especially home studio guys like me. I understand that the product is worth $4K but I already spent $500 for v8 Producer Edition. The product should cost $3500 for customers like me.



    There is a $200 mail in rebate for current SONAR customers.
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/27 20:02:40 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Rich Curtis [Cakewalk]

    Yes, for some this may be beyond the budget, but remember that this package is the full boat of what Cakewalk has to offer. It must be known that this is an AMAZING opportunity for studios, and production houses, large or small to utilize every feature Cakewalk offers in one valuable mega-package.


    Where else can you get all of this for $4,000?

    -The most powerful 64-bit DAW out there
    -Fully customizable motorized control surface
    -Matching I/O with 19 simultaneous inputs
    -The power of the Roland Fantom Synth
    -The ability to add an ARX expansion card!?
    -50+ Plug-in's
    -14+ Software Synth's
    -Mastering Tools!
    -Video capablities!!
    -Not to mention the totally awesome T-Bar!


    Despite what you've bought in the past, if you want to use the latest tools, the best PC DAW out there, and control it all with a very intuitive, and smart control surface, then the VS700 recording system is the perfect solution. Our customers have asked us to include everything under the sun from new plug-in's, to more VI's, to flight simulators, etc. and here is the answer (minus the flight simulator and the kitchen sink).

    I believe that $4,000 isn't much for everything you're getting here. We've done the home-work for you already.
    No system you can assemble yourself will be as seamless, powerful, and affordable as the one system we have designed for you here.

    As far as the rebate, the $200 rebate was created to repay the people who upgraded from 7 to 8, who wanted to have S8 the day of release, but now want to pick up a V-Studio. We seem to forget that when you buy software, and then a newer version comes out, you still used the software for that period of time. You're not forced to upgrade, although that's something that you may want to do. The software doesn't delete itself when a newer version comes out. You own that license forever. It's yours.

    Question: How much did you think it would cost to get all of the Cakewalk ingenuity, power, and technology in one powerful system?

    Answer = $4195.00

    :)




    Basicalyyou're right it's worth the money .........for somebody who don't own a sequencer, a soundcard , and a synht maybe .....so do you really think a newbie will buy it ?

    I mean all serious potential buyers are music men with years of making music or mixes or whatever and you really think they don't have serious interace , sythn and all!!

    The problem isn' t like i don't want to change from rme to your interfazce or some like that but most of us have a stable set up so we don't to want to change the whole heart of it !

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/27 20:44:25 (permalink)
    The torture continues Zo. I don't understand why people can't conceive adding the I/O as an ADAT extension or eight analog inputs with a hardware synth available to them. Just because it could be a starter system through the the USB connection doesn't mean you can't add it to your existing system. The current economic-political situation has added an undue tension to this release. I'm getting one, time and circumstance have me dancing but I've beaten them before.

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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/27 22:01:36 (permalink)
    yes i understand but i don't need extra inputs , i make rnb and hip hop , and most of my recording are made in studioS or at home , and it's basically on or two songers at the same time on the max !

    so yeah , i feel you when you say it's a great addition , and it will integrate perFect as i own a fireface so no multiple firewire devices ! great !

    but i just don't need it , same goes for the synth , i love the roland synth but it's just no an urgence (emergency) ! that's all...
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    RE: Price of the v-studio 2009/01/28 21:27:02 (permalink)
    I guess the viability of that ADAT expansion option depends on whether the VStudio or your current interface allow their analog I/Os to be routed directly to the ADAT ports inside the box.
    In my not very broad experience that isnt the case - the design default seems to be to want to pass the analog signals out through the FW/USB & that the ADAT ports will be used for a dedicated ADAT device/interface eg Behringer's ADA8000

    Can the VStudio route any of its analog & synth I/Os directly to ADAT?
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