g_randybrown
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peg board bass trap??
Hola, I am going to buy a peg board to hang cables on. I was thinking of a 1x2 frame around the perimeter (on the side against the wall) to hold it away from the wall to accommodate the pegs. Now I'm wondering if you guys know of a better way that might even help acoustically (ie bass trap?). Any suggestions are appreciated. TIA, Randy
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 16:40:33
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g_randybrown
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:00:07
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Well thanks Oaf, but where do I hang my cables? Seriously, I just thought if I was going to build the peg board (to hang cables) I might be able to kill two birds by treating it some way. I just moved here and don't know what this room is going to sound like yet (28.5' X 19.25' with a 12' cathedral ceiling). I'm in the process of setting and installing shelves etc. Thanks again, Randy
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:10:36
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Just be happy building a peg board to hang cables on it.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:34:37
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You could look into Helmoholtz Rersonator designs... or just stuff the void with 4lb/cuft fibrewool and be done with it. best regards, mike
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:44:09
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The fact that he has pegboard hooks with cables hanging off of the panel will IMHO, negate most of the effect. I wouldn't go through the extra expense and work.
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Oaf_Topik
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:48:18
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Hang the peg board behind the Bass Trap.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:55:54
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ORIGINAL: Oaf_Topik Hang the peg board behind the Bass Trap. Hang the peg board behind the Bass Trap. ??????????
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 17:59:58
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ORIGINAL: Mod Bod The fact that he has pegboard hooks with cables hanging off of the panel will IMHO, negate most of the effect. I wouldn't go through the extra expense and work. +1. Best to keep those two separate projects, or you'll end up disappointed.
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Oaf_Topik
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/05 18:04:49
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The do it yourself Bass Traps hang like a picture, so it wouldn't be such a hassle to hang the peg board behind the bass traps. It seems like it would be easy access to your cables, plus eliminating any signal interference from the cables.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/06 19:28:34
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Pick up a copy of The Master Handbook of Acoustics by F. Alton Everest. This book should be standard equipment in everyone's studio. It describes how to build a resonator using perforated sheets like pegboard. So yes, along with some 703 behind it you can make it double as a bass trap.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/06 22:49:25
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ORIGINAL: bitflipper Pick up a copy of The Master Handbook of Acoustics by F. Alton Everest. This book should be standard equipment in everyone's studio. It describes how to build a resonator using perforated sheets like pegboard. So yes, along with some 703 behind it you can make it double as a bass trap. Perfect...ty bitflipper!
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/08 23:29:33
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I once made a bass trap out of a coffe table this way. It was deep, and had short legs. I glued a standoff out of 2 x2's around the inside perimeter of the bottom. I filled it with rockwool, and attached the pegboard to the bottom. This was for a home theater set-up, but it did wonders to reduce the boomy standing waves I was getting. And +2 on that book...it's within reach in my studio. I framed my room to dimensions reccomended in the book.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/09 00:51:18
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So yes, along with some 703 behind it you can make it double as a bass trap. Really? The holes in peg board are pretty small. I don't see how the diffusion material behind it would do much absorbing.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/09 01:36:18
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The holes aren't really needed. The board will resonate from the low frequencies, and the rockwool traps them. You can make simple corner traps with a board bent and clipped to the wall covering nothing but air...although getting the right size is the tricky part. Pegboard holes are fine, and even using a 1/8" plywood works too.
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/09 08:15:25
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ORIGINAL: mike_mccue You could look into Helmoholtz Rersonator designs... or just stuff the void with 4lb/cuft fibrewool and be done with it. best regards, mike
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RE: peg board bass trap??
2008/12/09 15:06:19
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Really? The holes in peg board are pretty small. I don't see how the diffusion material behind it would do much absorbing. Yeh, it's somewhat counter-intuitive. You'd think that those tiny holes would look like a solid sheet to anything but ultrasonic frequencies (~45KHz is the wavelength of 0.25'). But it's really a resonator and surprisingly, can be designed for a fairly low resonant frequency. Everest has a chapter devoted to "perforated panel absorbers" (p. 218 for those who have the book). In his chart he shows 1/8" and 1/4" hole diameters. The primary factor is the total combined hole area and what percentage of the surface of the pegboard is holes. To quote Everest: Each hole acts as the neck of a Helmholtz resonator, and the share of the cavity behind belonging to that hole is comparable to the cavity of the Helmholtz resonator. We can view this structure as a host of coupled resonators.
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