Grehn
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GTPro4?
Does anyone have any reliable information that GTPro4 will indeed exist or are we just fooling ourselves into thinking that it will???
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Jessie Sammler
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As far as I know, none of the regulars believe that there will ever be a GTP4. We're just joking around when we talk about it.
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SteveStrummerUK
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Hi there Curt
I think Jessie's spot on here.
Actually though, the fact that GTPro3 has never needed a patch to mend anything in nearly five years says a lot about how well the program was thought out and put together, considering how different and how sophisticated it is compared to its predecessor GTPro2.
I've been the first to bemoan the fact that GTPro4 doesn't even appear to be on the horizon, but looking back since I've upgraded to Home Studio and now SONAR 8 I can see what a pretty good bit of kit it is.
The real mystery, and Cakewalk should really be a little ashamed about it, is that there isn't a Vista-supported version - don't get me wrong, those of us using Vista have it working fine, it just seems a little anachronistic amid the range of Cake products that are 'officially' supported in Vista.
A little input from the bakers on this matter would no doubt be appreciated.
Steve
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pistolpete
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I don't believe the will be a GT4 or a version of GT3 that is supported on Vista or Linux. I think the code might have to be totally rewritten to accomodate these platforms and Cakewalk might not have the programmer resources to do this. As long as people who buy this product eventually upgrade to Sonar, then they have no cost benefit to fix it. btw. Happy New Year everyone. (even Scrumpy  )
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Jessie Sammler
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Thanks for the New Year's greetings, Pete. I agree with you about why Cakewalk isn't about to sink programming resources into GTP3 updates or a new version. If people who bump into its limitations are just going to get another product like Home Studio or Sonar, why bother?
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milo
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so how different is sonar to use, easier or harder than say cubase le 4, which I have and find even more frustrating to use than gtp3 ...
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jamesg1213
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All the Cakewalk products are based on the same model Jason, the honest answer is that if you find GT frustrating to use, then it probably won't get any better further up the line  I used Cubase 3.0 years ago, and find Sonar to be much more intuitive, with a 'friendlier' GUI and workflow, but it's really all down to personal preference.
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SteveStrummerUK
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Jason, I've had a similar experience to James.
Before I got Cake's Music Creator 2004 and GT2, I'd had a fiddle with Cubasis VST, a 'lite' version of Cubase bundled with my old PC. It wasn't particularly difficult to work but it was extremely unfriendly to work with and I don't think I even got round to finishing a song with it.
I'd got MC2004 as a gift and much preferred Cakewalk's way of working to Steinberg's; however, once I'd got GT2, I found everything clicked into place and I was hooked.
At least with SONAR, and to a much lesser extent Home Studio, the Cakewalk stuff is very similar to GT3 to drive, so you find that al least you can start recording straight away, then learn the more sophisticated stuff as you go. I think this continuity is one of the reasons a lot of us stick with Cake when upgrading.
Steve
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JustGotPaid
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I love GT3, but the "higher end" software does tempt me from time to time. Going to the top of the list...if I installed SONAR 8, would it run as an independent program without over-riding GT3, if I wanted to use JUST GT3 on certain things? Seems someone said only one program, the newest/bestest would run properly, and that it would affect the operation and function of the others.
Glad to see you back Jessee...glad to see me back...hope to hear from Steve and Doc too.
JGP
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SteveStrummerUK
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Hi there Don
The simple answer is yes - you can run GT3 and SONAR 8 completely independently of each other on the same PC.
Even better, the installation process of a new Cakewalk program will detect any other Cake software and will then do its best to install in such a way that they will even share common folders - and to a certain extent, providing there is no 'active' MIDI in a project, you should be able to open it in either program.
The only problem I've encountered is when I've accidentally opened GT3 when SONAR is already open and GT3 complains there are no audio devices associated with it - this is (I think) because I point both programs at my TonePort's ASIO drivers and they cannot function with two or more software applications at the same time.
Otherwise, I can't see a problem Don.
Steve
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cjlinus
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Two things that I think are great about switching to Sonar: 1, each chanel has eq already in the strip. 2, now I can use midi drum clips. As far a choice between HS7 and S8, S8 has the instrument track which is so much nicer than loading up two tracks to do what is esentially one job.
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pistolpete
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GT trivia - according to Cakewalk's website, GT3 is based upon Sonar 3. What's the current Sonar level now? 8? It looks like the GT line has fallen behind a bit.
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SteveStrummerUK
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I think the idea of releasing a new version of any DAW that can't handle MIDI is probably not now going to happen.
The sad thing is that GT3 is a great bit of kit so it would be a shame not to see it supported in Vista at least - but as W7 is fast approaching, I can't see it happening.
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