Sonar and oZone

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2009/01/17 17:39:06 (permalink)

Sonar and oZone

I have finished my first mix and want to master it in oZone. I have tried to open oZone as a stand alone and bring the mix in but it only wants to be used in a host.

Questions:

1) Can oZone be opened as a stand alone app?

2) I always mix down into 16bit, is this correct for mastering ?

3) If I MUST open oZone in Sonar, do I somehow bring the stereo mix into a new Sonar project and then bring oZOne in as a plugin?

4) If that is the case, do I put it in the master fader plugin in bin?

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    CJaysMusic
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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 17:43:52 (permalink)
    have finished my first mix and want to master it in oZone. I have tried to open oZone as a stand alone and bring the mix in but it only wants to be used in a host.

    Uhhh, you need to use it like any other VST. In stand alone mode, how would you get the project to play through it?? It needs a host like sonar
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    ) I always mix down into 16bit, is this correct for mastering ?

    No, you should move up to 32bit wave files for mastering, not down to 16bit. Yuo go down to 16 when your done
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    ) If I MUST open oZone in Sonar, do I somehow bring the stereo mix into a new Sonar project and then bring oZOne in as a plugin?

    Its a VSt, you must. just insert it on the master bus. no need to bounce down to a wave file. What if you need to adjust a single instruemnt?? yuo cant if you bounce down to a wave file..

    4) If that is the case, do I put it in the master fader plugin in bin

    dont knwo what your asking, but ozone is just a vst, so use it like one
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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 18:06:03 (permalink)
    Hi, Jerjabs,

    Yep, the easiest way to start with Ozone is to insert it in the effects bin on your Master Bus. You may also want to download Ozone's very helpful free mastering tutorial from the Izotope website. Have a good one!

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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 18:33:43 (permalink)
    32 bit mixes seem to play in itunes....STill, always mix final mix as 16?

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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 18:35:30 (permalink)
    Commercial CDs are 16bit 44.100hz so I really dont see why you should have a final mix other than that!
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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 19:06:11 (permalink)
    32 bit mixes seem to play in itunes....STill, always mix final mix as 16?

    I think your missing the point. your convert the wave files to 32bit for the mastering process. This gives you more processing headroom for compressors and EQ and such. Then you convert it to 16bits and dither when your completely done.
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    Commercial CDs are 16bit 44.100hz so I really dont see why you should have a final mix other than that!

    If you read my post, you will see that its for the mastering process. Converting to 32bits is common practice and the preffered way to master songs
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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/17 19:57:08 (permalink)
    I use Ozone as a plugin in a mastering template project I have with a bunch of other plugins. Its near the last few. The others after it are for visual display of the song. (I like lots of info with lots of lights going on). These are analyzers of various types. But the string of plugins starts with BBE sonic Maximizer the rest do reverb, compression, EQ and so on. Each is used as needed with often many others turned off. The VC64 is in the string too. Ozone is the last of the sound shaping plugins and controls the overall loudness for most if not all the songs. (I really like its loudness maximizer better then any other). The other plugins are added if needed for their coloration to the final mix.

    When I am in this this template it is set up as a two track stereo project that is it has two stereo tracks that I import a single stereo file into. All the plugins are on the bus. The track is set to use most of the screen with the bus using the rest. A 60 40 sort of divide. I use the other track for A/B sometimes.

    I should add here I use a taste of these things in doing mastering. Not heavy duty stuff at all. The reverb for example is meant to give a sense of space for the whole mix not to add reverb to a singer or the like. Its meant to bring all the tracks into the same acoustic environment. It has to be just a hint sort to speak because you don't want it conflicting with any reverb/s that are on the tracks. In a way I think of mastering as sweetening up the mix as a whole thing. EQ is used too but mostly at the low end.

    Normally I use the plugins as I have set them up that is they are ready to go with me just turning them on or off to see how things ssound or what can be done to a mix.

    The mix is the hard part. It needs time and revisiting to get it right. I need to listen and think what is wrong then do something to it after which I save a new version. It mat take me weeks or even months to mix a song. Mastering usually takes a day if that. But that is only part of the process for me. Then I need to place it sonically with other songs for distribution. This will often mean I need to redo the levels for them all together so they don't jump on one another. That is done in CD Architect. Then I try it out on gear. If it is good I let it go. I am never satisfied and will revisit old songs to see if I can improve them. Also when I get hold of a new shiny plugin that I think will make a difference I will try it out on an old song. This is not a thing I recommend to others as it will slow you down in doing other things. One thing to remember is it takes work and lots of work to do this well.

    Its also important to realize that great songs have been mixed and mastered with much less gear then we have.

    The most important thing is mix it right first. All else is easy after that.

    I got into doing it this way because if I tried to do this on the full project before I could bring my computer to its needs. Now I don't have that as a reason yet I still do it this way because it has a way of focusing the job at hand for me.


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    RE: Sonar and oZone 2009/01/18 12:14:50 (permalink)
    +1 for Ozone's mastering guide off their web site. I refer back to that all the time.

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    Re: RE: Sonar and oZone 2013/06/30 16:04:17 (permalink)
    After seeing all the praise for Ozone I downloaded the trial...I like it but both of the strings presets have a gate on it or something...ie a very low volume part will cut in and out...is there a way I can turn it off or am I full o' crap?
    Thanks very much,
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    edit-sorry I found it in the dynamics module
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    Re: RE: Sonar and oZone 2013/06/30 22:17:10 (permalink)
    Each of Ozone's modules can be independently enabled and disabled. Just turn off the multiband compander module. Use the presets as a learning guide only; mastering presets are pretty useless generally.
     
    Oops, sorry I didn't notice you'd edited your post.
     
    To the OP: what you mix down to depends on where the file's going next. If it's going to be sent to a mastering engineer, export it at 32 bits. If it's going to be encoded to an MP3, export it at the highest wordlength that your encoder can handle, which may be either 24 or 32 bits. If it's going to a CD, export it at 16 bits. If it's going to be imported into another project where you'll be assembling the CD, export it at 32 bits and do the final wordlength truncation in the CD project (e.g. CD Architect or SONAR).
    post edited by bitflipper - 2013/06/30 22:23:39


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    Re: RE: Sonar and oZone 2013/06/30 22:38:43 (permalink)
    Bit, the op is pretty old.
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    Re: RE: Sonar and oZone 2013/07/01 10:07:46 (permalink)
    2009? Jeez, I gotta start checking top-level dates on threads. Funny how just about any thread of any vintage seems contemporary, as though the topics never really change from year to year.


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    Re: RE: Sonar and oZone 2013/07/01 10:16:05 (permalink)
    Yeah, the fundamentals don't change.
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