If you buy it can you sell it?

You're quite a futurist Gerry, :-)

I've been thinking of more immediate concerns... if you buy it... and for example; find the round trip latency is too slow for your end users... can you return it?

I have asked several technical questions about the V-studio. The absence of any substantive replies suggests it's going to be a buy an try experience for many users.

I'm wondering if this product is eligible for a satisfaction guarantee return or if it falls under the "software" clause of non returnable goods.

It sure seems like providing answers to the technical questions would offer many people a chance to determine its suitability in a more efficient manner than purchasing a sample just to find out what it can or can not do.

best regards,
mike

can you sell it?

Hello,

The fact that before trying the product you are considering re-sale indicates to me that you (a) are not serious about this purchase and (b) are not even sure whether this product is for you.

GK

FWIW, I am merely asking the very same questions I wish I were knowledgeable to have asked when I purchased the $2800 worth of analog to digital I/O gear that I currently use.

I'm specifically inquiring about details that in my previous experience have all been learned the hard way after realizing I had otpimistically misunderstood the claims that were available from advertisements and the manufacturer's website.

Honestly, at this stage in my life those are questions I require answers too BEFORE I consider purchasing a product.

Should I decide to purchase one or more V-studios systems I could do so immediately and I can pay cash... so I find it particularly curious that there seems to be a general lock down on the distribution of substantive information available for this product... I don't know what more it takes to be deemed "qualified" to be considered a serious customer... maybe it requires a certain naiveté and willingness to be satisfied with a pay first and learn what you bought later type of consumerism... kinda like the situation I found myself in on my last analog to digital equipment purchase.

So, my point is, if I can learn something pertinent about the V-studio... I might consider the idea of buying one. I'm not presently a qualified prospect... but that doesn't mean I'm not eager to consider an upgrade from my current system... that's why I keep asking questions with the intention of learning if the V-studio system is capable of bringing better performance than I have... improvements that I am particularly interested in making on my system are lower round trip latency and trouble free, fully synced, glitch free 16 channels of 26/96 analog to digital input capability. If I can't learn the answers to these two questions I may never be a prospect.

Why is it so hard to learn about this units actual capabilities?

best regards,
mike

that's seems to be a unique way to intergrate it into a system Craig, I've been thinking of the system as the core of a studio but now I see how you plan to use it and it fascinates me.

best regards,
mike

I think you are on to something... I'm still unsure of how the control surface and the Converter box connect to the computer... I'm curious if they are fully independant USB connections or if they need to be connected via USB. Somehow the answer to that seems relevant to your intentions.

best regards,
mike

Sorry, I didn't mean to run away with your thread here Gerry.

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It's a good question

+1

Software sold as part of an integrated device, like the VS 700, is typically licensed so that it can be transferred with the hardware.

I sure hope that Cakewalk has planned for this and ties the Sonar authorization to a hardware ID in the VS 700.

The Audio Interface I/O unit is WDM and ASIO over USb and therefore will work with all PC compatable DAW's out there apart from Protools, (because they block anything that they don't make) So this will be usable with Cubase, Ableton, etc

The Control Surface can use the MCU protocol with other DAW's so again Cubase etc. However any functionality (ie ACT part of the surface) that is not in the MCU protocol will be redundant with other DAWS.

I will say it again though, they really should make them available seperately and as a bundle.

I am thinking of building my own studio and starting to hire it out, my ultimate set-up would be the v700 Control Surface, an M-Audio Profire, and 2x Octepre.

This would give me a 24 input Sonar based studio with fully integrated control. Plus I would also be able to run a 16 input Protools rig (Avid limits the pro-fire to 16 inputs, idiots) with MCU control, for the numpties who would insist on using Protools.

However while its still shipping as a bundle, they are losing my business.

If there is anyone out there, who just wants to buy the Audio interface and not the control surface, let me know I would be up for working something out. You can also keep the software license as I already have Sonar 8

G

Gerry,

You make a good point, but a single fader control surface like the CC121 isn't even close to being comparable to the VS-700 surface.

I think tahts an unfair kit comparison, plus Cubase and Yammy stuff is sucky, so there

Sounds freak### complicated!

I'm not getting one until it's available in British Racing Green... and that's Sept. 2010 I heard.

fireface 800
Mackie controller pro
I feel is better

What makes it 'illegal'?

Cakewalk claim they sell you a non-transferable license to use Sonar. So you don't own the product, just the "right" to use the license. Pretty standard with software, and pretty lame. You are right. If you buy something, its yours. Fancy language to protect "intellectual property" and such is just pathetic. I don't blame Cakewalk, I blame the culture of greed and 'I made that, I'm so great, you can use it under these conditions but its really mine, mine, mine!"