2nd digital output setup, separate monitors mixes.

I have two questions I can't seem to find a answer two:

1.) Can you use the 2nd digital output (adat) for something other than adat? IE: I would like to use it as an effects loop with my TC 3000 reverb unit, or a mastering loop with my TC finalizer.

2.) Does the VS700 come with software to setup multiple head phone mixes like most of the other interface units come with? And if so do the separate monitors mixes got to the two head phone outputs or can you routed them to one of the 10 outputs on the back of the 700r.

thanks

Robert

The 2nd digital output on the VS700 is an 8 channel ADAT connection at 44.1/24 bit resolution. Does your TC 3000 or Finalzer support 8 channels of ADAT I/O? I'm not familiar with the software-hardware there. If the units do support 8 channels and allow the passing of a signal with the effects added to it then I think you could. If memory serves, the Finalizer does this on anolog using a look ahead feature. I think you'd have to go ADAT in and ADAT out on the units for a loop.

ORIGINAL: bharris99

I have two questions I can't seem to find a answer two:

1.) Can you use the 2nd digital output (adat) for something other than adat? IE: I would like to use it as an effects loop with my TC 3000 reverb unit, or a mastering loop with my TC finalizer.

2.) Does the VS700 come with software to setup multiple head phone mixes like most of the other interface units come with? And if so do the separate monitors mixes got to the two head phone outputs or can you routed them to one of the 10 outputs on the back of the 700r.

thanks

Robert

2 TC devices, one set of ADAT I/O on the V 700R. One at a time? I don't know if you can chain them. More specifically, the ADAT options on the TC stream 8 channels? I'd have to see the setup on the TC devices.
Have you emailed Cakewalks Tech. support? TC's tech support? It seems it would easier to just use a couple of anolog I/O's on the V700 for this. Plus with the Finalizer, you might want to put it on the end of the signal path if you're using it as a hardware processor, just before your burner or final track. The external insert feature comes into play if you are looping in and out of Sonar. A few issues could come up.
On the monitor question, I'm not sure.

ORIGINAL: bharris99

Thanks for the advice. I just looked at both my I/O options on both of my TC’s units and they both have ADAT options. So I’m assuming I should be able to get it to work.
Thanks . Any thought on the monitor questions.

Basically all the various I/O (ADAT, AES, Analog 5-6, etc) all show up in SONAR and are accessible for any routing. If you want to connect an aux on channel or bus to any pof these I/O for FX loops you can do it. If you want roue a bus out Ouputs9-10 to a headphone distribution system inaddition to the dedicated phone jacks, you can do it.

You essentially have all the routing flexibility that SONAR has and each and every I/O on the V-Studio system is accessible for these purposes.

Does this info help? If not I'm happy to elaborate.

Great! I wasn't sure if TC's equipment was "seeable " by Sonar. Difference between Lightpipe and ADAT?

How many outs can you route to? How many are free? In Sonar you can route to any out. If you have an analog stereo out to your headphone distribution you have one stereo feed and no seperation if you want to feed multiple muscians at once. How many musicians are you routing too? If you're seperating per musician-channel where he's playing, you'll need that many outs. 8 channel ADAT out to ADAT in headphone amp or mixer? How ever many people you want to feed a seperate signal to, either digital or analog, you'll need that many outs-mono-times two for stereo. I don't why you'd want to seperate feeds all the time anyway.???

On my 8 channel i/o unit here at home I can create a send on any input channel and assign that to any bus. Any bus can be sent to any hardware output - in my case 8. So, I could create 6 separate mono feeds (or 3 stereo headphone outputs) and still have my monitor master going to my speakers. And there is a separate stereo digital out I could jerry-rig if needed.

I suppose the V-700 works the same way, plus all the digital in out. I don't know how the headphone outputs work, but I suppose they are in parallel w/ a hardware output rahter than separate bus (or Cake would have made a bullet point about this). There are 8 analog outputs. Plus the spdif out, plus ADAT out. They should show up in SONAR (a lá Brandon) as physical outputs. The TC stuff uses 2 of the 8 channels of ADAT as I remember. But you could get a cheap ADAT ADA (the beringer unit comes to mind) and use that for 8 more physical analog outputs. That gives you 14 outputs for headphone submixes plus a master for the control room. Of course, working at 88.1 or 96 gives you half the ADAT i/os. But I've never found it necessary to make 7 headphone mixes. That is a pain even on a big mixer. The drummer, the singer (if they are doing a real take not scratch) and one or two for the rest of the rhythm section. But if each musician wants a separate feed with "more of me" and they want to pay for the set up time and for me to keep tweaking it, that is fine, too.

If you need more outs, add a second V700 i/o - doubling the number and all running through USB (according to Cake). But the v700 ain't itself a replacement for a large 32X8X8 mixing board and separate audio interface to match. SONAR replaces the board and patching - just be able to run it at low latency.

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You can create additional sends...awesome! Thanks Seth.
That may already be well known but my software is a bit behind..... plan to upgrade with this VStudio package

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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You can create multiple headphone mixes with SONAR and the VS-700, but the routing is all done inside SONAR. Here's an example for setting up separate headphone mixes for a singer, a drummer, and a guitar player ...

- In SONAR create three new busses and label them Vocal Cans, Drummer Cans, and Guitar Cans.

- Route each of these busses to a seperate hardware output.

- Next create sends from the Vocal track to each of the headphone mix buses and adjust send levels as the musician requires.

- Repeat creating sends from each track to the busses as required.

HTH

This is awesome, was looking for this information, can this setup be saved for later use in other projects?

Nice that's good, thanks FreeFly