Lunatique
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Panning drum notes?
I could not for the life of me figure out how to pan individual notes in the drum notes to the left or right. I searched the help file and couldn't find anything. How do you do it?
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LoopJunkie
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 11:38 AM
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You pan a drum note just like any other....
Why don't you tell us a bit about the problem: Do you use a live drummer, a hardware drum machine, a soft synth like e.g. the VSC or DR008, MIDI or audio pan problem, ...?
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sani
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 11:39 AM
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Paning is done on the device that plays your drumsound. If you, for example, use an external drumcomputer, a keyboard or whatelse, you edit the individual drumsounds on that device.
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Lunatique
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 11:42 AM
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I'm using Korg Triton LE to run the drum track. I could go into Triton to pan individual drum sounds--for example the high-hat to the left and the crash to the right...etc, but I want to be able to do it in Sonar.
Basically I have a drum track drum mapped as a "pass through map" and the Triton LE is supplying the drum kit. I want to be able to pan the high-hat, crash..etc to the left and right, but can't find a way to do it.
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sani
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 11:46 AM
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To make some things clear: if you record midi, sonar can't do what you are asking for (neither can any other program). You can midi pan a whole program, but not individual elements (percussions) of one program. Imagine you would like to pane individual notes from a pianosound! If you record audio, then record each element on a separate track in mono and pan at your wish, but the best (and only way midiwise) is if you pan individual drumsounds on your keyboard (it is done in the global mode on Triton Le).
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Phrauge
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 1:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lunatique
I'm using Korg Triton LE to run the drum track. I could go into Triton to pan individual drum sounds--for example the high-hat to the left and the crash to the right...etc, but I want to be able to do it in Sonar.
Basically I have a drum track drum mapped as a "pass through map" and the Triton LE is supplying the drum kit. I want to be able to pan the high-hat, crash..etc to the left and right, but can't find a way to do it.
Try running the Split Notes to Track CAL. Then you should be able to pan the seperate tracks wherever you want. HTH.
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jcpzero
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 5:29 PM
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I also use the CAL script to spit each note to a separate track for drum tracks. I can then pan on a per track basis. JCPZero
< Message edited by jcpzero -- 7/2/2004 5:30:53 PM >
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Lunatique
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 02, 04 11:23 PM
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Gotcha, I'll try that. But that sounds strange to me, because although you are spitting out the parts to different tracks, they are all still using the same channel on the triton, so if they are using the same midi channel, can they still be panned individually?
On a related note, can I let's say, duplicate a string track, then keep it on the same channel as the original track, but be able to pitch-shift or do other things to it?
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jcpzero
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 04, 04 0:05 PM
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After I split the drum tracks using CAL, I record each track separately and assign panning on each audio track. I think your question is correct, you cannot set up 5 drum tracks - each with a separate pan - and have a hardware synth on one midi channel pan 5 different ways at the same time on the same drum kit.
For this reason, I plan to experiment with soft synth drums such as FXexpansion DR008 as bounding midi to audio soft synths should be faster than recording each drum track individually from a hardware synth.
JCPZero
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zendin
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RE: Panning drum notes?
July 04, 04 0:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: sani
To make some things clear: if you record midi, sonar can't do what you are asking for (neither can any other program). You can midi pan a whole program, but not individual elements (percussions) of one program. Imagine you would like to pane individual notes from a pianosound! If you record audio, then record each element on a separate track in mono and pan at your wish, but the best (and only way midiwise) is if you pan individual drumsounds on your keyboard (it is done in the global mode on Triton Le).
I'm not sure if you're speaking specifically about the Triton, but your statement seems to be a very general one. If that's the case you're incorrect. If you can assign a sound to an individual out on a hardware device (be it a kick, snare of F# on a piano patch) you can use Sonar to pan it, EQ it, apply effects or anything else that a Sonar channel is capable of.
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