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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/16 19:28:53 (permalink)
Hey has anyone mentioned Argent

They were a great band - When Russ Ballard was with them they had afew popular hits like "God gave rock and roll to you"
But after he left they were pure Prog rock

I saw them a few times - they were excellent!!

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/16 19:32:54 (permalink)
I think Kind of Blue kicked it off... that's the one that so traumatized the academic institutions that they initiated inbreeding programs to produce uber musicians devoid of feel, vibe, and pulse.

IMO... That's what prog rock seemed like when I was a kid.

There was an underlying culture war from the very beginning.


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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/16 20:24:50 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: alvie

Which band do you think start it all? Some will say that "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" was the first prog album. I think it was more psychedelic rock like the first Pink Floyd album.

For me, the first real prog album was "In The Court Of Crimson King" from King Crimson (in 1969).

That is interesting. I would have to say ELP was the first I noticed, but the earliest I would call prog myself is also that same album (of course, I was for a long time convinced that ELP made that album until I acquired it and realized that Greg Lake was also in King Crimson (the days before the internet... how did we learn anything... oh yes... books . I think prog always dealt a bit with things much more fanciful or grand than the mundane parts of life, like dead dogs, lame horses or cheating wives. It took me far beyond just music. It told a tale. It was artful.

The formal definition is different I am sure. But I am with you on this one all the way.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/16 20:45:33 (permalink)
Very early example, still very folk-y, but definitely prog in the making:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ8VNEqBH00

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 05:57:38 (permalink)
Worth a mention:

Asia, Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Man, Quatermass, Rennaisance.




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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 06:27:47 (permalink)
Barclay James Harvest have some good stuff. I like their album "Everyone is everybody else," and some other songs like "Medicine man" and "Mockingbird."
Has anyone mentioned Focus?

PS. In the progarchives.com Supertramp is listed as crossover prog.


               
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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 07:36:01 (permalink)
I was going to mention Focus, but that, in my mind, was more sort of Jazz based rather than progressive.

I was also going to say Wishbone Ash - but can you have a prog rock band with no keyboards?

[The only track that had keyboards on was "Throw Down The Sword" on the album Argus - played by Rod Argent no less!!!


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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 07:38:24 (permalink)
Focus - Now you're talking - great Band I have a number of their LP's(vinyl)

Unfotunately I would have to group Barclay James harvest in with "worse concerts of all time" found the music very tedious

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 07:44:07 (permalink)
Hi Jonesey

I saw Wishbone Ash quite recently - Andy Powell's the only original member in the band
They are still an excellent live band
and whats great is because the venues are more pub based now - you can usually get a good view

better than the old days when band like this played the big halls and you use to end up on row ZZ behind the pillar

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 09:03:55 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: alvie

Which band do you think start it all? Some will say that "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" was the first prog album. I think it was more psychedelic rock like the first Pink Floyd album.

For me, the first real prog album was "In The Court Of Crimson King" from King Crimson (in 1969).


SPLHCB - Psychedelic for sure.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 12:08:56 (permalink)
Happy the Man

Automatic Man

Crack the Sky

Mike and the Mechanics

Gong

Soft Machine

Todd Rungren's Utopia

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 12:15:13 (permalink)
i think, it's safe to say that the Jimi Hendrix Experience, was my first recollection of 'Progressive Rock', mostly because of the genius of Mitch Mitchell's drumming, taking it more into jazz areas, therefore bridging the gap, making hendrix's mind blowing chord changes more 'progressive'.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 12:23:45 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Johannes H

Now Supertramp is prog?????????? My goodness, I remember the week Crime of the Century came out... it certainly wasn't prog back then.


Well, well the prog police has arrived!

I may have expressed myself a little unclear, I don`t mean that Supertramp in general is a prog band, but to me
Crime of the century is very prog compared to their other albums and I like it as well as I like other types of music.
I think there is only one "popish" song on that album and that`s Dreamer."

Music genre is alway debatable and I may be wrong, but the bottom line is that music is a personal thing and let`s all respect that.

Actually, I would tend to agree, and would say that Even In The Quietest moments would qualify. Fools Overture is definitely prog.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 13:10:58 (permalink)
I forgot about "Fools Overture." It`s very prog, just listening to it now!!



               
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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 16:46:56 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: batsbrew

Happy the Man

Automatic Man

Crack the Sky

Mike and the Mechanics

Gong

Soft Machine

Todd Rungren's Utopia

King's X



my current favorite: COSMOSQUAD




Automatic Man - havent heard them in years. They were great. I have seen Gong and Utopia several times. In fact, I saw Utopia before there was a Utopia Album and Todd was about as freaky as Heavy Metal Kid... Kind of blew me away when they did the opening to "City in my head..." I think that was called Utopia Part 1 or something.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 17:28:35 (permalink)
Automatic Man - havent heard them in years. They were great. I have seen Gong and Utopia several times. In fact, I saw Utopia before there was a Utopia Album and Todd was about as freaky as Heavy Metal Kid... Kind of blew me away when they did the opening to "City in my head..." I think that was called Utopia Part 1 or something.


Ditto on Automatic Man - thought I was the only person who ever heard them. Pat Thrall was mind-boggling on guitar...

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 17:32:49 (permalink)
Anyone ever hear of Stomu Yamashta's Go - an album with Steve Winwood on keys and Al Dimeola on guitars and Klaus Schulze on synths? Pat Thrall was a guitar player on that too. I think that is where I first heard of him.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 17:55:33 (permalink)
YEP....
THRALL did all that stuff before he hooked up with pat travers...

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/17 21:57:25 (permalink)
Happy the man was such a great band. Kit Watkins still has a huge library of current music too. I have to put my vote in Focus being a truely Classical rock band though, and I still vote the guitar solo in Hocus Pocus as the all time greatest rock guitar solo ever.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/18 14:19:39 (permalink)
that fukin' hokus song, drives me nuts.

absolutely annoying.

solos' pretty cool....

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/18 14:35:11 (permalink)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U&feature=related

Live in Japan, 73 - very tight performing... had a few of Jan Akkermans later albums, but a bit too sterile for me.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/18 15:05:41 (permalink)
I saw Wishbone Ash quite recently - Andy Powell's the only original member in the band
They are still an excellent live band


Sounding great on this;

Throw Down the Sword

I think there may still be 2 Wishbone Ashes doing the rounds, one lead by Powell, the other by Laurie Wisefield. Powell's is the real deal for me.

 
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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/18 15:13:08 (permalink)
I have never known where to put Jeff Beck. His music spans pretty much the entire range of musical styles ex country rap and opera.

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/18 19:08:54 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: space_cowboy

I have never known where to put Jeff Beck.


If I had access to him I'd put him in my room and make him teach me how to play like he does. ;>)

His music spans pretty much the entire range of musical styles ex country rap and opera.


Indeed. I saw him in the '70's when he toured with Jan Hammer. That was a really interesting show. Very progressive stuff going on there.

I felt like the Beck album Blow By Blow was a prog rock album but the radio stations wanted to call it "jazz" or "fusion" or something like that. I always felt like Lee Ritenour and Larry Carlton and those other L.A. studio guys were playing "fusion". Beck was expanding the vocabulary of prog rock as far as I was concerned.

But what's in a label? Good music is good music. Beck certainly has done some wonderful, inventive and influential music over the course of his career, regardless of genre. But I'd label him in progressive rock rather than fusion any day, if it were up to me. ;>)

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PS I still don't get why I'm the only one who mentioned Jan Hammer (from the mid-'70's, before he became famous for his Miami Vice scores) as having been a prog rock act. Maybe I'm the only one who listened to Hammer back in those days. ;>)

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/19 00:32:09 (permalink)

Dreamtheater and Rush. Especially Rush because they always seem to have something fresh and new - especially their latest one, and that's saying a lot for a bans that has been around for so long. Dreamtheater seems to have lost its way along the way....

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/19 06:34:01 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: jamesg1213

I saw Wishbone Ash quite recently - Andy Powell's the only original member in the band
They are still an excellent live band


Sounding great on this;

Throw Down the Sword

I think there may still be 2 Wishbone Ashes doing the rounds, one lead by Powell, the other by Laurie Wisefield. Powell's is the real deal for me.


Wisefield's not an original member though is he - he took over from Ted Turner as I recall

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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/19 11:17:27 (permalink)
If you guys haven't heard Happy The Man, then you owe it to yourself to check em out.
Really excellent stuff on Crafty Hands (1978) and Happy The Man (1977 - 1st album?)....
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RE: Progressive rock 2009/03/19 12:20:01 (permalink)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U&feature=related

Live in Japan, 73 - very tight performing... had a few of Jan Akkermans later albums, but a bit too sterile for me.

OMG, I have not heard that in soooo long...

Love that song...

Leads a nutbar though lol.

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