LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING????

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2009/03/18 17:43:59 (permalink)

LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING????

I have used Sonar in the past and Im ready to take things to the next level. Ive been recording music for years. I do R&B,Jazz,Soul,Hip-hop and Club Music. I've put out a couple of CDs and im coming back from a 3 year hiatus from the music biz. I decided to build a computer.

Ok ppl my computer specs can be seen in my signature, but i cant seem to figure out why I still have a latency issue when I play back tracks with audio and midi. Is my sound card? If so any recommendations I was looking at the edirol FA-66 Audio Interface.

I would really like to know what I need to do to Optimize the performance of Sonar 8PE on the my custom build system.
Can Someone provide some tips for Vista x64?

Just for giggles heres the rest of my entire studio set up (feedback is ALWAYS welcome,TEACH ME!):

Computer Monitor: 24inch Gateway Widescreen LCD Flat Panel Display
Case:ARK 4U-500-CA Black 4U Rackmount
Sound Monitors: Alesis (Original) Monitor One
Mic:Rhodes NT1
Controller:M-Audio Axiom 49
Mixer: Yamaha MW12 Mixing studio(use for XLR runs to Line in of SoundCard)
Headphones: Sony MDR-7506

OS:Vista Ultimate x64bit
DAW:Sonar 8PE X64
VSTi: NI KOMPLETE 5
Processor: AMD Phenom 9950 2.6GHz Quad-Core
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3HP
Mem:Kingston HyperX 4GB
HD: WD 250 GB IDE(OS),WD 500GB SATA 3.0(Audio)
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    farrarbc
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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/18 18:00:09 (permalink)
    It would help to have a bit more information to guide you with.

    What are your settings on your sound card set at - buffer size, sample rate?
    What driver mode are you using - ASIO or WMD?

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    jWalk
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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/18 18:06:58 (permalink)
    (My teminalogy is terrible and Im not at my studio, on options>Audio> has 44.1k sampling [sometimes i use 48k] the drop down is at 2 and the slider is set as low as it will go 5ms. im using WDM.

    I can record straight MIDI just fine. But then Ill add some vocals and when I try to add some additional MIDI notes or tracks I get the slight delay.


    OS:Vista Ultimate x64bit
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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/18 18:37:10 (permalink)
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    start there!

    Echo audiofire is affordable and a great product.
    post edited by jcschild - 2009/03/18 18:44:13

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    jWalk
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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/31 14:53:28 (permalink)
    Ok I did some research on an audio interface an I keep coming back to this one:
    Emu 1616M PCI Digital Audio
    System (Pci-breakout box) - $399.95


    Only thing is I prefer it was PCIe and im not sure of how good the drivers are for vista 64.

    Anyone have any thoughts about this card and breakout box or another suggestion?

    OS:Vista Ultimate x64bit
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    Processor: AMD Phenom 9950 2.6GHz Quad-Core
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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/31 17:01:47 (permalink)
    Only thing is I prefer it was PCIe and im not sure of how good the drivers are for vista 64.


    FWIW, You won't currently find any PCIe audio interface worth having in the sub $800 range.

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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/03/31 21:44:03 (permalink)
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    start there!


    With the system specs.... you have a banging system... the weak link is the soundblaster card. Emu makes some decent PCI cards.... or go USB or preferably Firewire, it's an external card/interface.

    Do your homework before you buy something.


    If you've been out of recording for a few years..... a lot has changed....for the better.
    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2009/03/31 21:51:14

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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/04/02 12:07:57 (permalink)
    Where's CJ when you need him? !!!

    jwalk, I would start with your Audio Interface - your system is going to be fine, but you really need a Firewire or USB interface with manufacturer designed ASIO or WDM drivers to really get your latency down. I have the excellent Cakewalk badged version of the Edirol FA-66. I am right in the middle now of staging my new Q6600 quadcore DAW with Sonar 8 PE and Vista 64 bit, and with minimal tweaking (ie one minute) I am already getting down to a reported 4ms latency - Now thats without even trying. So it's certainly an interface I could recommend.

    With the rest of your DAW spec, I would venture that the right audio interface will get you there


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    RE: LATENCY - WHAT IN SAM HILL AM I MISSING???? 2009/04/02 17:08:21 (permalink)
    Where's CJ when you need him? !!!

    but what can i say except lower your latency to under 5ms and ditch the game card .
    post edited by CJaysMusic - 2009/04/02 17:15:44

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