Sacalait
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Are the converters the same as the 700?
...same D/A A/D as the VS 700?
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/04/23 15:34:20
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Add me to the curious as well...
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AT
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/04/24 09:58:43
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It would seem not, since the vs700 clocks up to 192, while the 100 is only 96. If nothing else, the clocking is different, or crippled for higher rates.
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musicroom
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/04/24 11:27:49
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ORIGINAL: AT
It would seem not, since the vs700 clocks up to 192, while the 100 is only 96. If nothing else, the clocking is different, or crippled for higher rates.
What a buzz killer you are AT. hahahahha Thanks for the info.
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/04/24 17:48:03
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Hey Dave, I imagine the convertors are just fine. i'm checking out the vs700 now and they seem good. I mean, you'd have to look hard to find convertors that actually ruin your music these days. @
post edited by AT - 2009/04/24 17:56:02
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/03 17:04:53
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You have a point - but I am always looking for that "someday it will be vintage and I was smart enough to buy it when it first came out" sound. :)
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/11 17:58:58
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So it seems that the original question which was "Are the converters the same as the V-Studio 700?" still has not been answered. And since I too am an individual who is seriously considering purchasing the V-Studio 100, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL!!! Are they the same? And no, just because the 700's converters go up to 192Khz (which I personally don't believe recording in sample rates that high), does NOT neccessarily mean the 100's converters are of a lesser quality just because they only go up to 96Khz (which is the highest sample rate I personally will record in). So please, if anyone HAS the actual answer, THEN PLEASE POST IT!!!
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Sacalait
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/13 22:25:58
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just goes to show in today's world what matters- sometimes... the 'look' of the VS100 has (of today) 4665 hits. The 'quality of the converters' has 238 hits.
...so are folks actually interested in quality? ...maybe just a bunch of low-enders 'looking' at it? ... don't kill me for thinking it... ...just odd looking at those numbers...
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PhilHarmonic
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 10:53:19
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So does anyone have the answer?
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 11:34:51
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The converters are not exactly the same, but rather similar. The A/D stage is well isolated and because there are less of them than in the VS-700 steps were able to be taken to make sure that the quality is there at the price point at which the VS-100 is offered . The idea is for you to be able to actually use the recordings you do with this thing in your final productions, and the A/D stage needs to stand up to this demand.
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PhilHarmonic
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 11:39:30
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Excellent! So the A/D conversion quality is there, how about the D/A conversion quality?
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 11:44:45
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Excellent! So the A/D conversion quality is there, how about the D/A conversion quality?
Again, it's very similar to the VS-700, which has been reviewed across the board lately as being excellent. Since the VS-100 has less I/O than the VS-700 it was possible to create on-par quality but at a much lower price point. So there's "less of it" than the VS-700, but the quality is present. On a (sort-of) similar note, the single motorized fader is extremely smooth on the VS-100 due to the fact that it has a relatively large amount of DSP available to control just a single fader. It's really something.
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2009/05/14 11:58:59
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 12:04:11
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On a (sort-of) similar note, the single motorized fader is extremely smooth on the VS-100 due to the fact that it has a relatively large amount of DSP available to control just a single fader. It's really something.
Is it possible to control the Monitor Output with the fader? Meaning I would set the maximum monitor output with the rotary knob, and then be able to control that amount of monitor output volume with the fader?
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 12:07:14
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ORIGINAL: Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]
On a (sort-of) similar note, the single motorized fader is extremely smooth on the VS-100 due to the fact that it has a relatively large amount of DSP available to control just a single fader. It's really something.
Is it possible to control the Monitor Output with the fader? Meaning I would set the maximum monitor output with the rotary knob, and then be able to control that amount of monitor output volume with the fader?
The fader can basically control any of SONAR's faders so it could control the master bus. However it won't control the master output of everything coming out of the VS-100. You'd have to use the monitor knob for that.
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RE: Are the converters the same as the 700?
2009/05/14 15:09:21
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Again, it's very similar to the VS-700, which has been reviewed across the board lately as being excellent. Yes, but writing about audio quality is like tap-dancing about architecture. (or however the phrase goes...) But having said that, the only writer I actually trust to give good sound quality reviews is Martin Walker in Sound on Sound. Luckily, he did the VS-700 and gave it very high marks for sound quality. Hopefully you guys at Cakewalk will send him the VS-100 so he can review that one as well. It does no good to have different people review the gear when I want a sound quality comparison. 
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