Z3TA: How to soften the sounds

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2009/05/13 12:31:26 (permalink)

Z3TA: How to soften the sounds

I've finally getting into my Z3TA. I really like it a lot but a lot of the sounds are a too crisp / brittle for my taste. Can anyone recommend an easy way to soften / warm them up a bit?
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    RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2009/05/13 13:13:16 (permalink)
    perhaps simple things like adjusting the attack for a start also the fx side of the synth, turning off / lowering things might be of interest also.
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    RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2009/05/13 13:43:54 (permalink)
    Under options, select "oversampling" (x2) for offline (and online, if your pc can handle it) rendering.

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    RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2009/05/13 14:18:46 (permalink)
    There are a number of different things you can try. The first and most effective technique would probably be to filter more aggressively. You might also look at using the EQ effect. You can add some lushness to the sound by using the chorus effect and/or reverb. And as previously noted, you can lengthen attack times (and also lengthen release times) for a softer sound. This is all basic synth programming ... well worth your time learning if you're into this stuff.

    As an afterthought, here's something else you might play with ... something that's not basic synth programming. As this is z3ta we're talking about, look into what the wave shaper might be able to do to the sounds. In particular, I'm thinking that the use of the Wave and LPF transformations might nudge things in the direction you want. I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a little experimentation.
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    RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2009/05/13 14:44:33 (permalink)
    simply throw on a 3:1 compressor. Will fatten up any synth sound!

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    RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2009/05/13 17:06:00 (permalink)
    It's a very agressive synth. You're not just hearing things. You may want to look at adding another synth. Rapture is more gentler sounding overall, IMO.

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    Re: RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2010/11/15 12:19:54 (permalink)
    IMO z3ta gets the "sounds harsh" rap due to its waveshaping - Waveshaping typically creates a more crisp metallic sound (increases harmonics).
     
    I wouldn't use waveshaping to soften/dull down a sound - I'd look for it and back it off.
     
    The comments about using the EQ and Filter are good.
     
    Contrary to popular belief z3ta can sound soft and smooth - it's just that many don't take it that direction (too tempting to use the waveshaper and push the filters I guess)
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    Re: RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2010/11/15 16:30:24 (permalink)
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    I wouldn't use waveshaping to soften/dull down a sound - I'd look for it and back it off.


    Well, as I said in my post 17 months ago, I haven't tried this but I'd bet the two options I mentioned would in fact make a sound less harsh.  Certaingly we could expect that of the LPF shaping option.  But the Wave shaping option claims to do the following: "partially morphs the waveform into a sine - mostly used to reinforce the fundamental in a weak waveform".  That sounds like a harshness remover technique to me.  If I ever get some time to experiment, I'll do so.
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    Re: RE: Z3TA: How to soften the sounds 2010/11/15 21:57:16 (permalink)
    Granted - I guess I should have clarified that most waveshaping activity tends to sharpen the sound (add harmonics), but there are definitately those which will dull it as well (remove harmonics).  In other words, there are more functions in the waveshaper that add harmonics, than those that remove them (Only Wave &  LP Filt options come to mind)
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