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2009/06/01 10:00:53 (permalink)

MIDI File Organzier/Manager?

Hi,

I'm trying to find a specific type of software for managing and searching for (without using Windows Explorer, Windows Search or other desktop search software) my 15,000 midi files.

My problem with other desktop search software for Windows, is that the results return non MIDI and cakewalk files, and even has this problem when specifying exclusions/inclusions which are "supposed" to limit the results.

Have looked on and off for 15 years now online and was wondering if anything is out that's new.

Have done some half hearted searches with Google but haven't seem anything specific and don't want to invest in yet another desktop search utility that makes it so difficult to wrangle the "midi file only" results, even when it see's dupe names, say like in an MP3 file of a song of the same name. My experience (because I also have 30k MP3 files) is the search parameters, again, in the other software I've tried, doesn't filter things out correctly, even when specifying extensions.

Thanks.

Jerry

  
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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 11:24:44 (permalink)
When you use Windows Explorer search for "*.mid" (without quotations). This tells Windows to go and find every .mid file in the area(s) you've specified (C:, all HD's, My Docs, etc.). Once it finishes that search. Click on the "File Name" header once to put the files in alphabetical order. You can then easily find the file you're looking for. You can also click on Date Modified to find your most recently edited files.

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 11:47:13 (permalink)
Thanks.

As I stated above, Windows Explorer has problems for this. It's very slow and limited in it's parameter choices.

I have 3 internal and several external hard drives connected with backups, and by limiting what drives are searched, this makes Explorer even slower it seems. I actually have double the amount of midi files (30k as I just rechecked), and Explorer has been searching since before I started typing this reply and is still going.

  
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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 11:58:04 (permalink)
Hi Jerry-

You might want to check out MIDIcat.

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 12:02:10 (permalink)
Thanks Susan, I'll do that right now.

  
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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 21:16:25 (permalink)
You're welcome! Let me know what you think if you did/do try it. I left it off my system when I changed PCs, but recently tracked down my reg # again. I haven't created any new catalogs, since it doesn't support non-standard Windows fonts. IIRC, it pretty much did what it said it would, and the preview feature wasn't half bad.

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/01 21:45:54 (permalink)
Ok, I'll let you know.

After I downloaded it, I took the tour of the program on the website and it looks like exactly what I need.

I'm in the middle of mixing a project now, but I will get to it soon.

Take care.

Oh yeah, nice doggy (I've got a 2 year old black Lab who always ruins my vocal takes)

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/02 05:06:09 (permalink)
I use EZPlayer Pro

Holds all the midi and nothing else

And you can create headings and easily sort stuff

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/02 07:55:57 (permalink)
Thanks, I'll take a look at EZPlayer Pro too.

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/02 11:52:54 (permalink)
I use EZPlayer Pro too, but it doesn't actually search for .mid files. You have to add the paths yourself. MIDIcat helps you find where everything is first, and it has a Duplicates search, extracts info, lets you add comments, etc. It's a different kind of tool. You can preview files in it, but EZPP has it all over MIDIcat in that department!

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/02 22:59:16 (permalink)
Thanks Susan,

Sounds like I should use both. I'll check it.

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RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2009/06/03 05:12:17 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Susan G

I use EZPlayer Pro too, but it doesn't actually search for .mid files. You have to add the paths yourself.



This is the inital problem with it - is knowing how to organise it.
Because I got it with Superior Drummer 2.0 is has things already set up.
I left all Toontrack as it came but all my other midi, I've structured for my own use.
I saw how the folders are coded, so I could then create my own headings and subfolders, rather than having them all in as one big midi library. This took a bit of time.
So I've got all my midi structured with blue headings and main folders off that and subfolders off that.

But you can just drag any midi folders in and name it and it's done.
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 09:52:35 (permalink)
I am attempting to organize my midi drum library, and after checking out a few things I decided to go with EZ Player Pro because (1) I got a free copy of EZPlayer Pro when I purchased SD2 (love 'em freebies!), and (2) on the surface it looked like it would do most of what I wanted to do.  The thing I like about EZPlayer Pro is that it will "translate"  midi grooves from, say, Superior Drummer 2, to BFD, General MIDI to Steven Slate SSD 4, etc.  It's not necessarily for the faint of heart, but if you dig in and figure it out there are benefits to be had.
 
Susan:  I tried to access the link you posted for MIDIcat but Norton Antivirus immediately popped up with messages about how this site is some sort of security risk and to proceed with caution ... anyone else have this problem?  I have gotten similar messages about sites that I believe to be safe, but I still avoid suspicious sites unless I can somehow confirm that they are safe.

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 10:05:20 (permalink)
LL, I'm at right work (which has very high security) and the link to MIDIcat is fine........(usually, if the software even suspects a "shady" site, it will block it from viewing). 
 
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Edit: (Interestingly, at the Download Page at MIDIcat)
 
 
 
 
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 10:19:42 (permalink)
+1 for EZ Payer Pro. You can build your library any way you want it if you just pay attention to how it does things. I have all my Groove Monkey, LoopLoft, Addictive Drums, Studio Drummer and Abbey Rd, Prosonic and of course Toontrack in there and with the "map wrap" thingy it works great. Forgot Odd Grooves and a few others. I even made a parallel library. If I click on "Styles" I have all my Funk or Blues or what ever together in files. So I can open up a folder and the genre is there no matter the manufacturer. It took some work but I love it and am glad I did it. If I build my drum part in EZ Player first and then drag to Sonar I can always click on a block and have it show up in the browser so I know where it came from and that is very handy. I am hoping a new EZ Player Pro comes out soon with the EZ Drummer search features in it. I think it's one of the most under rated plugins out there. It is showing it's age but I still use it all the time.



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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 10:23:48 (permalink)
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+1 for EZ Payer Pro





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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 12:13:41 (permalink)
Thanks for posting these. I too have been looking for something to arrange and sort midi files. :)
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 13:54:59 (permalink)
Holy cow, this EZ Player will map general midi files to Addictive Drums???
 
Dumb question before I buy it. When was the last time it was updated?
post edited by TerraSin - 2016/06/16 14:16:46
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 14:45:38 (permalink)
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Holy cow, this EZ Player will map general midi files to Addictive Drums???
 
Dumb question before I buy it. When was the last time it was updated?


January, 2015
 
One note: it installs as a 32- or 64-bit VST2 .dll file. If you want to run it standalone (doh), you need a host, something like SAVIHost.

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 17:10:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/06/16 17:30:06
There is Toontrack Solo. which is a free download at the Toontrack site. You open this to use Superior Drummer or EZ Drummer with EZ Player Pro stand alone. It will be in Toontrack Software Tools in your account.

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 17:24:58 (permalink)
Latest EZ Player Pro was Nov 1, 2015. I reinstalled it on Jan 2016 when I did a clean reinstall so it must have worked on Windows 10 with out an update for a few months. Here is part 1 of 2 videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrySmLXnDEY
This is an Obedia tut on setting up in Sonar
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/16 18:47:27 (permalink)
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There is Toontrack Solo. which is a free download at the Toontrack site. You open this to use Superior Drummer or EZ Drummer with EZ Player Pro stand alone. It will be in Toontrack Software Tools in your account.

Can it be used to JUST open EZ Player Pro standalone? I don't have either of their drum samplers. I wondered what Solo was for. 

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/18 10:27:22 (permalink)
Solo has no value for you if you have no Toontrack samplers. You can't open up Superior stand alone with out SOLO.

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/18 11:31:42 (permalink)
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You can't open up Superior stand alone with out SOLO.




or SAVIHost
 
or Imageline Mini Host Modular
Web site says ins Beta3 - This one works great for checking out EastWest Play which SaviHost chokes on (at least on my system)
 
These are the two I use to quickly check out a VST - or take care of VST licensing/registration.
But there are a number of other VST host apps out there.

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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/18 12:16:31 (permalink)
Picked up EZ Player yesterday for $25 from someone on KVR. :)
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Re: RE: MIDI File Organzier/Manager? 2016/06/18 14:49:55 (permalink)
From another Cakewalk thread on Midi Drum Plugin
 
EZPlayer Pro - you can pick it up for £17.96 without VAT or little over $25 at TimeSpace.com.
http://www.timespace.com/product/EZPP-120/6/EZplayer/toontrack_ezplayer_pro_%28serial_download%29.html


 

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