VS-700C and the future

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2009/06/19 18:06:29 (permalink)

VS-700C and the future

Does anyone know how future releases will effect functionality with the VS-700C? Perhaps that was poorly worded, I have no doubt it will continue to work, but will new features be inaccessible to the controller? This is the only thing that's holding me back, with Cake releasing new versions every year, who knows how long this thing will stay awesome?! Also, what happens after Sonar 10? Complete rebuild? Controller rendered pretty much useless?

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/19 19:02:14 (permalink)
    I think things will be good in this area. The great thing about the console is the very fact that it is software driven. For example they may impliment some new feature in Sonar and then all they have to do is allow the controllers to access the functions. eg all the rotary encoders across the top may now just function as 'X'. The displays will always be able to alert the user as to what is going on. eg Channel branch mode. All the faders (2 to 8) now just mean Aux sends for example. There are still many thnigs and no limits really as to what the channel strip rotary encoders or faders etc can do.

    There are many button combinations that dont do anything now and have been reserved for future functions obviously. They have planned ahead already.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/19 20:26:36 (permalink)
    Yeah i kind of guessed that, I was mainly wondering what will happen after Sonar 10, if they'll continue with Sonar, in which case the VS-700C would be safe or if they were going to start from scratch and bring out a totally new program. Ah stuff it, who am I kidding, I'm getting one anyway!

    This is where I get annoyed though - I love living in Australia, but it totally sux balls for inflated pricing. I'm about to place an order for a whole bunch of gear - will cost me round AU$39000 to buy within Oz, but AU$30000 from Sweetwater. Pretty big saving, but, add on 15% import tax and shipping and it's not so pretty. Any great ideas on how to dodge the import tax?! I should just accept it and move on with my life, but it hurts so bad - I really don't want to give Mr. Rudd another $4500!

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/19 22:08:43 (permalink)
    I'll have three fingers of Glenlivet, with a little bit of pepper... and some cheese.


    I love that line dude.
    The future in engineering always incompasses the past in engineering. In the realm of software, we all know that there are many variables from DAW programs, operating systems programs, etc., that will have to be worked out. The future's so bright I have wear shades.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/19 22:24:25 (permalink)
    Hi to James.

    I am in Melbourne Australia. I agree about costs but consider the excellent support you will get from Roland here in Australia if you do buy it here. I am a product specialist for this system and Roland have got some very good people here who know a lot about it and are very helpful.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/20 06:20:29 (permalink)
    That's very true, but this forum and Cakewalk tech support also know a lot about it and are very helpful! I probably will end up getting it here though - I consider it my patriotic duty to help raise Australia out of this damn recession! If Mr. Rudd would just send a few more stimulus packages our way...

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/20 08:39:24 (permalink)
    Cakewalk is excellent with support and the forums are good too but Roland here in Austraila are fast. For example Cakewalk might take a couple of days to respond and if you have some issue at for example 2pm in the afternoon then in the states it is midnight the day before and you might not get a response for a while. But if you email Roland here at that time you will hear back within the hour often.

    One day my cosole just completely went off the air and stopped working. Sonar was still fine. It was nothing more than a setting that had changed itself in the control surfaces menu. I never touched it but after hearing back so quick I was able to just reset it and all was fine. But I could not function at that point for a while though and it felt scary! Of course now if it happens again and its rare I know exactly where to look.

    I dont think Cakewalk are going to start over and bring out a new program either. It is an evolution process and why scrap all the great work they have already done. Sonar 9 and 10 will be further developments of current versions I am sure.

    Check out the Intelliware site too here at this link:

    http://www.intelliware.com.au/ProductTutorials/sonar.aspx

    They post a new tip up there every month. This is coming from our Roland people here. Download the ones that are there now and keep an eye on them for future reference. That applies to anyone reading these forums. They are a good source of tutorials.


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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/26 00:31:38 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jeff Evans

    For example Cakewalk might take a couple of days to respond



    Actually, we have an elevated level of service for all VS-700 customers. VS-700 customers' calls are pushed to the front of the support call qeue, ahead of all other support calls. This way they can get through to our support staff virtually immediately.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/26 01:18:09 (permalink)
    Thanks for that Seth. I must make sure that I let them know. I have had no V Studio issues at all. It has been amazing. My last contact with Cakewalk was a Sonar issue and I did not mind it taking the time it did anyway. (it was a keyboard controller issue in the end anyway) Cakewalk were of course very helpful as usual. In Australia we have got some great Sonar and V Studio support help here too at Roland. And when the time (business hours etc) is not necessarily the best there for you, it usually is well covered here.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/29 14:37:42 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]

    Actually, we have an elevated level of service for all VS-700 customers. VS-700 customers' calls are pushed to the front of the support call qeue, ahead of all other support calls. This way they can get through to our support staff virtually immediately.





    Thanks Seth. I can vouch for that. I got an immediate responce when I called for my VS-700.


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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/06/30 14:38:38 (permalink)
    I'll find out soon enough, mines on the way this very day. Some of the oldest, most obselete gear made is still awesome today. A peice of equipment like the VS 700 will stay usable for a long time I think. I'm sure bigger and better things will come along in the realm of DAW's and sound but that is natural. Right now today, it completes a Sonar based DAW.

    ORIGINAL: jamescollins
    Does anyone know how future releases will effect functionality with the VS-700C? Perhaps that was poorly worded, I have no doubt it will continue to work, but will new features be inaccessible to the controller? This is the only thing that's holding me back, with Cake releasing new versions every year, who knows how long this thing will stay awesome?! Also, what happens after Sonar 10? Complete rebuild? Controller rendered pretty much useless?


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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/07/02 18:48:48 (permalink)
    Today, I am looking at the box which just got delivered. Man that's a big box. Can you beleive, as I was coming home from work I turned the corner and there was a Fedex truck up on a jack with a missing tire. I stopped and asked him if he was going to my address and he himed and hawed and didn't answer, referring me to another truck in the area.
    30 minutes later there he was at my door. A bit nervous and trying to explain. Anyway it's here. Vs 700 and the future, I'll get back to you.

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    RE: VS-700C and the future 2009/07/02 19:05:51 (permalink)
    Im interested to know how it's working out CRG!!

    I'm gonna pull the trigger on one of those big boxes soon.

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