Drapping 2 clips, but they move apart

Snap to grid?

No, turn it off. If you are trying to place a clip on the time line without Sonar trying to match it to a point in time you need to turn snap to grid off. Once in the right position turn it back on if you like.

bump - anyone have any ideas at all on this?

ORIGINAL: Westside Steve

Can you count the exact space between the two and drag them one at a time to that same offset?

WSS

Actually, that's how I've already solved the problem.

However, this issue will come up time after time for me, so I'm trying to understand why it happens at all. It seems such a simple thing to ask that I'm bemused at why it happens at all.

I'm wondering, does this happen for anyone else, or is it just me?

ORIGINAL: John

OK, I've turned off snap to grid but that makes no difference.

Jeez - this should be straightforward. Drag and drop two clips and they go out of sync - that's just plain wrong in my eyes.

Before I fly off the handle and blame Sonar for being rubbish, I just want to make sure that I haven't got some strange setting enabled that I shouldnt have.

I didn't know it was drag and drop. I thought you were moving the clips. When you are doing this what exactly are you doing? Where do the clips come from?

Hi John,

I think I'm using the jargon incorrectly which is probably confusing. Here's the setup and what I do:

1) The vocal track and acoustic guitar track are next to each other
2) The vocal and guitar tracks are perfectly in sync
3) The guitar track begins somewhere between measure 1 and 2 (I punched in very roughly)
4) Simililarly, the vocal track begins somewhere between measure 3 and 4
5) I'm trying to slide the guitar track so that it starts at 1:00:00 (or however the start is numbered), but I want the vocal track to stay in sync (hence move it the same amount)
6) I highlight both tracks, left click the mouse on the combined selection, hold down the mouse button whilst moving the mouse to the left and sliding both tracks to the left until the guitar track is at 1:00:00
7) As slide both tracks, I can visibly watch the vocal track "catch up" the guitar track ever so slightly
8) Sure enough, when I play the whole lot back, the vocals come in too early by about half a second

Weird, eh?

Hi jamjar-

I can't repro this. Are you using 8.3.1?

-Susan

Nevermind

I am resurrecting this old thread as I have the exact same problem JamJar indicated but did not see a solution posted.  I am using Sonar 8.5 with all patches installed.  My tracks go out of sync when I either select them all and drag them (as Jamjar did) and also if I select the empty space prior to any data and delete the hole, essentially sliding everything to the left.  This happens whether "snap to grid" is engaged or not.  I have used Sonar nearly 10 years and have done this thousands of times with no problem.  It does not happen on any project except one, but it happens consistently with this one project.  There are no midi data or time changes in the project.

In addition, I found another related symptom.  One track had a bass note mistake that I solved by copying a note from another section and pasting over the error.  One I move the tracks, the start and end times of the clips move so that I hear both the old track and the new track, but out of sync with each other. 

Any ideas on what is going on?  I expect this is a bug as I can't imagine any reason a user would want to have this behavior, and most projects don't behave this way.

Any thoughts are appreciated.