What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems?

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2009/07/16 01:32:26 (permalink)

What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems?

I have a USB Midisport 4X4 that has always worked fine, but now M-Audio wants me to buy the "Anniversary Edition" of the same exact product to get 64 Bit Drivers!?!

WTF? I won't do it, so I am in the market for another one. I have found the MOTU micro lite, but was wondering what you guys have?

I need at least 4 x 4 ports.

Thanks!

Brent
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    Jose7822
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 01:35:00 (permalink)
    Edirol has great MIDI interfaces with great drivers. They have what you're looking for.

    Plus Edirol is a company by Roland which is basically Cakewalk, so you'll keep things in the family (sort of speak :-P).


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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 01:41:56 (permalink)
    I only see a 3x3, do they have a 4x4 or 5x5?

    Thanks,

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 02:13:18 (permalink)
    Hmm.. I could've sworn they had a 4x4 MIDI interface. Guess not.

    But you could get two of the 3x3 Edirols for a total of 6x6 I/O and still save money compared to the 4x4 the competition offers. I know it's not all in one unit but the price should make it worth it.

    I don't wanna recommend something I haven't tried so. Just stay away from Yamaha cause their driver support sucks (at least with the MIDI interface I had).


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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 06:59:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: A1MixMan

    I have a USB Midisport 4X4 that has always worked fine, but now M-Audio wants me to buy the "Anniversary Edition" of the same exact product to get 64 Bit Drivers!?!

    WTF? I won't do it, so I am in the market for another one. I have found the MOTU micro lite, but was wondering what you guys have?

    I need at least 4 x 4 ports.

    Thanks!

    Brent



    Have you just tried to d/l the 64bit drivers for the Anniversary Edition off the website to use with your 4x4 "Classic" edition? I believe the "Anniversary Edition" is nothing more than a cosmetic update.

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 11:06:13 (permalink)
    I had to switch my m-audio 4X4 to the anniversary addition when I went 64bit. I thought that their was both a driver and hardware issue that necessitated the switch. The anniversary edition is now running fine with no problems.

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 17:17:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: michaelrb

    I had to switch my m-audio 4X4 to the anniversary addition when I went 64bit. I thought that their was both a driver and hardware issue that necessitated the switch. The anniversary edition is now running fine with no problems.


    When you say you "had to switch" is that only because m-audio didn't supply you with a driver for the original one? That is exactly why I won't buy the new one. I used to love m-audio, but because of this little money grabbing game they are playing I won't be buying ANTHING from them ever again. LIke Elson said above, it's just a cosmetic update, but they changed something so the new driver won't work with the old one, so you would have to switch and pay another $200. I went ahead and ordered the MOTU micro lite which has 5 midi ports and was $50 cheaper. So long m-audio and good riddence.

    http://www.motu.com/products/midi/lite

    Here is a forum thread on m-audio's site about this. Everyone there is feeling the same way I do. Check it out if you like.

    http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=5449

    Once I have my MOTU up and running I will post back here with an update.

    Thanks,

    Brent
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/16 19:25:27 (permalink)
    The MOTU micro lite (5x5) works great with Vista 64

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/26 14:13:01 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: michaelrb

    I had to switch my m-audio 4X4 to the anniversary addition when I went 64bit. I thought that their was both a driver and hardware issue that necessitated the switch. The anniversary edition is now running fine with no problems.


    When you say you "had to switch" is that only because m-audio didn't supply you with a driver for the original one? That is exactly why I won't buy the new one. I used to love m-audio, but because of this little money grabbing game they are playing I won't be buying ANTHING from them ever again. LIke Elson said above, it's just a cosmetic update, but they changed something so the new driver won't work with the old one, so you would have to switch and pay another $200. I went ahead and ordered the MOTU micro lite which has 5 midi ports and was $50 cheaper. So long m-audio and good riddence.

    http://www.motu.com/products/midi/lite

    Here is a forum thread on m-audio's site about this. Everyone there is feeling the same way I do. Check it out if you like.

    http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=5449

    Once I have my MOTU up and running I will post back here with an update.

    Thanks,

    Brent


    Add me as another who won't be stampeded into buying a new midisport just to get the drivers. What really burns me is I didn't buy the one I have all that long ago. I might have bought the anniversary one if I had any idea it existed and what the difference would be, but I wouldn't have guessed that by this time there would be no 64-bit m-audio midi drivers at all for interfaces that are still sold.
    I resurrected my old MOTU Fastlane for which there are 64-bit drivers, and am looking at the Cakewalk UM-3G...or maybe I'll get the MOTU micro lite.
    It's good to know it runs well inVista 64-bit. I'll see how my Fastlane does in Win 7 64-bit and then decide.
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/26 22:07:08 (permalink)
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    Add me as another who won't be stampeded into buying a new midisport just to get the drivers. What really burns me is I didn't buy the one I have all that long ago. I might have bought the anniversary one if I had any idea it existed and what the difference would be, but I wouldn't have guessed that by this time there would be no 64-bit m-audio midi drivers at all for interfaces that are still sold.



    That's M-Audio ever since Avid bought them, which is partly why I don't recommend any of their products anymore.

    Sorry you guys had to go through that (I did too but with another of their products).

    Take care!
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/27 00:51:09 (permalink)
    A1MixMan - Thanks for the heads up on that. I also use a Midisport and will be going 64-bit with Windows 7.

    But there's no way in hell that I'd purchase another Midisport just for the 64-bit drivers. 

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/27 10:22:11 (permalink)
    I can vouch for the MOTU Micro-lite 5x5. Works perfectly under Vista 64 (AND Windows 7 64bit, by the way).

    Unlike my Emagic AMT-8, which is now in the loft, thanks to Apple not supporting Windows (beyond XP)
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/27 10:54:46 (permalink)
    mick.. could have been worse.. I could have bought logic a week before they were stopping support on pc.. then I really would have been *coughs*

    I'd actually be curious to know why drivers couldn't be written and ANY makers to clearly state why..

    I had to give someone a scanner, worked fine.. just no drivers for it.. pity .. I dislike chucking out things that are working fine *sigh*          
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/27 16:05:40 (permalink)
    MOTU Microlite.
    Love that interface. Well supported, 32bit and 64bit, Mac and Windows.

    M-Audio... meh... won't do them again for exactly the same reason has has been said here. I had an 8x8, which I loved because it had enough ports AND was a MIDI patch bay. But, alas, 2 years on and no Vista 64bit drivers.
    I switched back to the Microlite out of necessity when I moved to Vista 64 and needed drivers. Now, I'm so used to it I figure I'll keep it until it stops working, at which point I will replace it with another MOTU interface.

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    Re:What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2009/07/28 17:00:10 (permalink)
    I use an Echo AudioFire. In some cases, your device may not need drivers. I have an M Audio Axiom (which officially has no 64-bit drivers); when I first plugged it in, it tried unsuccessfully to find drivers... without being able to find the drivers, Vista just used some default stuff from the OS.... and everything works fine.
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2010/05/04 04:14:19 (permalink)
    michaelrb


    I had to switch my m-audio 4X4 to the anniversary addition when I went 64bit. I thought that their was both a driver and hardware issue that necessitated the switch. The anniversary edition is now running fine with no problems.

    Just in case anyone - like me - is using the older Midisport interfaces and is moving to Windows 64, the drivers for these devices are now available (albeit in beta form) from the m-audio website.


    I make no excuses for m-audio's abysmal release schedule; just updating the thread.
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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2010/05/04 04:54:24 (permalink)
    I bought a Tapco iLink 4 X 4 because the M-Audio MIDISport drivers weren't available for x64 bit OS. Guess what? They just released a driver for the MIDIsport so it will run under x64 OS.

    Too little too late M-Audio.

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    RE: What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2010/05/04 11:29:50 (permalink)
    Edirol UM880 has 64 bit drivers. Has 8x8 midi connections. But they do not seem to manufacture this device anymore. Not sure why. It's a great box.

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    Re:What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2010/05/04 14:18:35 (permalink)
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    I have a USB Midisport 4X4 that has always worked fine, but now M-Audio wants me to buy the "Anniversary Edition" of the same exact product to get 64 Bit Drivers!?!

    WTF? I won't do it, so I am in the market for another one. I have found the MOTU micro lite, but was wondering what you guys have?

    I need at least 4 x 4 ports.

    Thanks!

    Brent


    Don't chuck your Midisports, one and all!  M-Audio indeed has Windows 7 64-bit beta drivers on their site, and I have tested them with the Midisport 4x4 and 8x8 and they work fine.  The drivers are a little hard to find ... I believe they have a link from one of the M-Audio forum stickies.  Don't use the anniversary versions, either - I tried those and they didn't work for me.

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    Re:What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2010/05/04 15:18:42 (permalink)
    I use an ESI M4U (the old model - not the new XL which probably works just as well) and it's working out of the box with the drivers with that come Windows 7 x64.
    Just remember to turn off Power Management for the USB Root Hub on which it is connected to get flawless performance.

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    Re:What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2011/04/24 02:01:06 (permalink)
    I'm searching for the fastest(lowest latancy) MIDI interface I can find. Any cost.
     
    I'm just about to recieve a new computer that has the second fastest Audio interface I could find. The fastest was cost prohibative and didnt sound as good.
     
    If you are wondering, the fastest Audio interface is RME QS costing $3,500 for every 8 channels, 8 samples each way of delay. The second fastest is the SSL Alpha link 24 channels costing $2,400, 54 samples each way. Both are assuming that you use PCIx-MADI cards.
     
    Does anybody have recomendations? At a minimum, I would like the MIDI interface to be faster than my audio. If that is not posible, how fast do they come?
     
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    Re:What MIDI Interface Are You Using With 64-Bit Systems? 2011/04/24 04:15:39 (permalink)
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    I'm searching for the fastest(lowest latancy) MIDI interface I can find. Any cost.
     
    I'm just about to recieve a new computer that has the second fastest Audio interface I could find. The fastest was cost prohibative and didnt sound as good.
     
    If you are wondering, the fastest Audio interface is RME QS costing $3,500 for every 8 channels, 8 samples each way of delay. The second fastest is the SSL Alpha link 24 channels costing $2,400, 54 samples each way. Both are assuming that you use PCIx-MADI cards.
     
    Does anybody have recomendations? At a minimum, I would like the MIDI interface to be faster than my audio. If that is not posible, how fast do they come?
     


    Well how fast can a midi interface go?
    It's about 32 KHz clock, which is 0.3ms per byte/noteevent just about.

    Which is about 15 samples of 48Khz for each note event.

    This is when nothing else is occupying space on midi port, like midi clock, MTC etc which are sent continuously.
    RPN/NRPN codes occupies three bytes each, pitchbend 2 bytes when they are used etc.

    So keeping propagation delay down of interface in this range will probably not be noticed.

    Anyway running a soundcard as low as 8 samples is a waste of cpu in my opinion. Are the clocks accurate down to picoseconds is more interesting in my world to get quality A/D-conversions, rather than a couple milliseconds delay.
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