alysara
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Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
Error: "File is corrupt: [file path] Invalid audio format." I created the file using PE7. Now, when I try to open it, that's the message I receive. Is there a workaround that'll enable me to get this open?
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2009/08/01 16:34:01
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Good chance the file is corrupt. If it is valuable, you may want to see if Cakewalk support can help you salvage it. You say you saved it in Sonar 7. Are you trying to open it with Sonar 7 and the same hardware and software that it was saved from? If not there is more hope that the error message is due to an incompatibility with the current environment. If possible try opening it with the original software/computer and the same settings you were using when you saved it. If you search the forum, you will find quite a few posts on corrupted bundle files. The convenience of a bundle file is a trade-off against the difficulty of recovering useful data when the opaque proprietary format it is stored in goes bad. I am not aware that Cakewalk offers any bundle reader utility that can look inside the file, or that there is an open specification available that would help you use a hex editor to do it yourself, although apparently the support people can get in to some extent. edit: I just psted this and found the next thread down the list was: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1784043
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alysara
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2009/08/01 16:56:34
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Thanks slartabartfast I appreciate the link. Yeah, it's the same sys. I just created it, deleted the project folder later, then tried to open the bundle and got that mesg. Still scratchin' my head.
Thx again, Alysara
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2009/08/01 23:31:31
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Stuff worth trying? http://www.cakewalk.com/S...emsOpeningBUNfiles.asp P.S. If I had my way Cakewalk would stop supporting the bundle file and put the effort into support for CAL and SFZ 2. These actually can add functions to the software. Zipping per project folders would accomplish much the same end as a bundle with a more repairable format.
post edited by slartabartfast - 2009/08/01 23:48:24
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2013/11/25 13:29:57
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sadly, years ago, back when i was stupider, i used to save finished projects in .cwb and .bun only to find out later that by doing so i had killed them. it sucks because i wanted to revisit a few of them only to find out that that was no longer an option. does Cakewalk have a bundle disinfectant?
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/28 04:33:57
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Unbelievable the software tells you to back up your files as .CWB And they're corrupt? I have a client right now that is ready to release their cd, in which they have paid me $thousands$ of dollars to track at my studio over the last 5 years and now their .CWB backup files will not open without a terrible message that says, corrupt audio will be padded with silence?
Why wouldn't Sonar tell you there is such a high failure rate with this? I'm am sick over this, literally!
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/28 06:49:31
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So sorry to hear if your misfortune. I hope you have a recent back up that you can fall back to and not loose too much time.
The bundle files are good storage medium. So is zip files. But I have been burned by both.
I had a song that I did many many hours of work on. I knew better than to rely on the bundle file. So I zipped it and burned it on a DVD. About a year later went to open it and......
Back up, then back that up, then back that up off site. Then make sure your back up is valid, and can be opened and used.
So sorry again.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/28 06:49:36
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Dofka
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/29 14:12:06
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I didn't know that Bundles would go corrupt. They worked fine up to Sonar4 from what everyone says in the forum. Maybe Cakewalk should of sent out a memo warning that Bundles are no longer stable. You would think the company would stand behind their product and backup system and had an update fix after the first user that lost everything. It seems it's never been addressed. They should remove the .CWB possibilty as a backup altogether.
I am researching sending my hard drive with the deleted project files to a data recovery business. However, most don't recognize .cwp and .cwb as legitimate extensions used by windows. And they would have to be able to return the folders, including all the data, with timestamped audio, back to the original location.
The band is from different parts of the USA and the singer lives in Canada, so the horrific thought of re-tracking everything isn't even a possibility.
As a paid registered user with SONAR, still not a peep from anyone at SONAR TECH.
The Per Project Folders I still have for other artists and my own, I will backup by copying the entire folder, I will also save as OMF as this may be my final straw with ever using SONAR. My client from this 14 song botched backup by SONAR, also a paid registered Sonar user said he will be using something other than SONAR from now on. And the threads on my Facebook Page have also caused many to be alarmed.
I do appreciate the sympathetic post on the issue.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/29 15:16:23
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Dofka I didn't know that Bundles would go corrupt. They worked fine up to Sonar4 from what everyone says in the forum. Maybe Cakewalk should of sent out a memo warning that Bundles are no longer stable. You would think the company would stand behind their product and backup system and had an update fix after the first user that lost everything. It seems it's never been addressed. They should remove the .CWB possibilty as a backup altogether.
It's not hard to imagine how irritated you are for that mess. Sorry about it. AFAIK there's been no change in the reliability of bundles. It's not that they will go corrupt, but that IF they do, there's little you can do to rescue the project. As you say, it really would have been reasonable by CW to advise people not to use bundles as a backup-format, but only for co-operation with other musicians. ( You seem to call bundles a backup system. I've never thought of it as such.) This may be silly, but I've sometimes thought that the modern high speed-high capasity drives and other hardware are what makes bundle-files fail. That the old, old bundling formula doesn't like speed, just like sometimes you must use lower speed in CD-burning in order to get reliable results.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/29 15:34:42
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Really good to read this and to know about precedence set in order to make the same mistake. I tend to save files in bundled formats and it never occurred to me that could potentially corrupt the file. Seems like this would show up on the Sonar radar. I've got Sonar 7 and will not try this at home...or in the studio, in this case. I've been curious about how reliable cloud storage is for the same reason. What if???? Can never have enough back ups.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/04/30 03:26:41
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When you make a bun file, always check it right after to see if it can be opened before deleting anything. And don't rely on it as the only means of back up.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/02 14:09:32
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I had always saved as Bunfiles. With this particular project I saved Bunfile to my C drive. I saved Bunfile to one of my external drives I saved Bunfile to clients drive. All project folders and data deleted from C Drive as we thought 3 copies of the Bundles would be plenty safe backup. El-Wrongo As a PAID REGISTERED Sonar customer, I still have not heard a peep back from Sonar Tech. Great customer service eh? So if nothing else, I hope others read this and use other methods like copying their Per Project Folders to another drive and DO NOT USE BUNFILES.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/03 11:16:59
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You've been asked (and I just did in your other post on this same matter) to confirm if all the three bundles you saved have gotten corrupted. You have not clearly stated that yet, as far as I've noticed. That would be just more than bad luck, unless you have created two copies of the one original bundle instead of saving three times as a bundle file. BoostSoftware Really good to read this and to know about precedence set in order to make the same mistake. I tend to save files in bundled formats and it never occurred to me that could potentially corrupt the file.
Any complicated file can get corrupted somehow. Saving as a bundle does not corrupt the file per se, as mentioned several times, and bundle is a very good format for web co-operation of music makers. It's just that IF it gets corrupted, you can't do anything ( unless the software mentioned in these two threads can do something). It could be considered strange that CW doesn't have a de-bundling software in its arsenal.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/03 11:34:46
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from the cakewalk knowledge base-Tips on Backing Up - Bundle FilesBacking up your Cakewalk files - The benefits of the BundleIn the wonderful world of computers, backing up your work is more than a good idea. It's essential when you're using your computer for creative projects. Making backup copies of your Cakewalk files is quick, easy, and can save you some serious headaches, as well as hard drive space.The preferred method for backing up files containing audio data is to save them as Cakewalk Bundle (.BUN) files. Here's how to do it in Cakewalk:- Choose File | Save As.
- Change the Save As Type to Cakewalk Bundle.
- Name the file.
- Choose your saving location, and save the file.
Why use Bundle (.BUN) files rather than Project (.WRK) files for backing up? First, a quick lesson: A Project (.WRK) file contains MIDI data, project-specific settings, and references to audio data that resides in the location specified by the current Data Directory (Options | Audio | Advanced). Backing up the .WRK file, or transferring the .WRK file from one machine to another, will NOT automatically backup or transfer the audio clip files referenced by that .WRK file. So saving or copying a .WRK file alone is not enough to safeguard your projects or transfer them to a different computer. The .WRK format is perfect for everyday Cakewalk use, and we don't suggest you save as a Bundle every time you save. However, once you've come to a point in a project where you've made significant progress and feel the need to back up the file, the Cakewalk Bundle comes into play.The Bundle (.BUN) format preserves ALL data, audio and otherwise, in one file, which can then be moved to any location you like. Because of this, these files also tend to be quite large and slow to open. You'll need to save your Bundle files on your hard drive, or on some large capacity storage medium such as a CD or tape drive. Once that's done, you can delete the .WRK file version, then use the Clean Audio Disk command to remove the associated audio files (which you don't need because they're saved in the .BUN file now). This will free up space on your hard drive for your next project.When you're ready to work with the project again, simply choose File | Open and navigate to the location of the Bundle file. The file will open with all data preserved just as you left it.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/03 12:34:57
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Yes. That's rather blunt :o/ CW really needs to pay a little attention to this.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/07 01:29:39
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The above information refers to .wrk and .bun files.
What was the last Cakewalk Program to create those files. Certainly not the Sonar range.
If I was to have read that document as a resource I'd be questioning what those file formats have to do with Sonar.
All this talk about the failure of cwb files is a beat up. They are no more prone to corruption than any other file form. File corruption due to hard drive speed is pretty speculative and not supported by any evidence that I've been able to find.
The fact is that any file format can become corrupt. EVEn if I use a zip program to bundle some files I'll test it straight away to make sure that it decompressed properly. The same with Cakewalk bundle files.i know it terrible to lose work. Been there done too and it can be very expensive to recover data if that's even an option. A proper backup scheme is what's really required.
Cakewalk are usually very helpful with sorting out corrupt file problems.
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Steve_Karl
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/09 02:03:06
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mudgel The above information refers to .wrk and .bun files.
What was the last Cakewalk Program to create those files. Certainly not the Sonar range.
CWPA9 (Cakewalk pro audio 9) was the last to use .wrk but .wrk was used in cpw30 which came on 1 floppy disk. .cwp began with Sonar 1 which came directly after cwpa9, and I had been hearing about bun nightmares since Cakewalk 5 so who knows how long that knowledge base article has been there. never did a bun and never will
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/09 10:18:14
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I think the whole point of this thread is the OP was told with the upmost authority by Cakewalk that using CWB ,BUN files was by far the best choice for back up. Sure all files formats can be corrupted, But there is no way to retrieve your audio data from a corrupted CWB file. There is from a corrupted CWP file. The Cakewalk data base needs to sorely be updated. It should also say We recommend you back up your work regularly. You can use CWB files but be warned all data will be lost if they are corrupted. So as a precaution please also back up using a combination of CWP and MIDI files as well.
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/12 11:43:27
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i would be a happy camper right now if there was a way to extract just the audio files from a corrupted bundle. can't someone at Cakewalk (or anyone else, for that matter) invent a utility for corrupted bundles????
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Can't open .cwb. Error: "File is corrupt...Invalid audio format."
2014/05/12 12:24:51
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Yep. As I mentioned here or elsewhere: CW should publish a de-bundling software. They owe it to us - in a way.
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