Keystation 49e

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2009/08/08 12:32:23 (permalink)

Keystation 49e

I'm sorry for my first post being one asking for help but I have no idea how to solve this one as I'm not very familiar with MIDI
 
I bought a m-audio keystation 49e and I'm attempting to run it in sonar 8 producer
 
as far as I know, all I need to do is plug it in to my pc via USB and sonar should recognise it?
 
but it doesnt :(
 
I tried installing the latest drivers directly from m-audio's site but I've had no luck..
 
any help would be greatly appreciated!! Again, I am new to MIDI so any solutions may have to be written in a way for me to understand haha
 
thank youuuuuuu
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    papa2005
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:36:28 (permalink)
    1) Be sure the keyboard is connected and powered on begore you start SONAR;

    2) Click on "Options" --> "MIDI Devices" and you should see your M-Audio keyboard listed. Make sure you have it checked.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:40:03 (permalink)
    hey thanks for the quick reply

    and i've been doing both of those things and theres nothing listed in the midi devices thats anything to do with my keyboard

    I was expecting something like USB device or something but noooppe :(



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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:48:40 (permalink)
    What OS (XP, Vista, Windows 7, etc.,) are you using?

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:52:19 (permalink)
    I'm using Vista :)
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:57:59 (permalink)
    Do you have Vista drivers for the keyboard? I don't use Vista so I'm probably not going to be of much help...I know that M-Audio Keystation 88 was a simple plug it in and Windows recognized it (which is mandatory for SONAR to see it)...

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 12:59:48 (permalink)
    yeah I made sure it was specifically the Vista drivers I downloaded

    it's a bit of a weird problem to be honest, I hope its just something silly I'm forgetting to do
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 14:30:24 (permalink)
    I'm using Vista :)


    Vista 32 or Vista 64?
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 14:31:23 (permalink)
    Does it show up in device manager?
    post edited by slartabartfast - 2009/08/08 14:34:33
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 14:45:11 (permalink)
    32 bit, and I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for in device manager but it does say USB composite device..
     
    that might be it? Nothing in there specifically related to the keyboard
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 14:48:42 (permalink)
    Are you sure that USB is enabled on your computer? If so try a different USB port.

    Are you sure that the USB cable is working?

    My Keystation 49e just showed up (XP) without installing any drivers.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 15:00:36 (permalink)
    I've tried swapping cables and ports, its the same result every time

    thank you all for your suggestions by the way, I hate to bug everyone for help as I usually enjoy working these things out for myself
     
    I just dont understand midi that well to begin with but I'm learning I guess :)

    The thought of having all these new sounds at my fingertips is too much to ignore!
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 18:11:10 (permalink)
    according to your manual:
    If you are using Windows XP or Mac OSX, you can now simply switch the keyboard’s power switch to the “ON” position. Because the Keystation 49e keyboard is class compliant, it will work without any further installation.

    Just to be clear, that means that the drivers are built in to the keyboard and are loaded into Windows versions later than 2000, when you plug it in. If you installed drivers (as opposed to some other software that came with it), they are drivers for Win 98 or Win 2k and may be hijacking the device.

    Uninstall them.
    m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=187473ccf8b0d9096d3774e7e46d0733

    Your keystation will probably show up under that name in device manager when properly installed.
    To test that it is working and not a problem with Sonar :
    m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=1d45c0102bde3d9bffb19c0056d9b171

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    post edited by slartabartfast - 2009/08/08 18:24:11
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/08 18:45:26 (permalink)
    This may also be relevant. It is written for XP but probably also applicable to Vista:
    m-audio.com/?do=support.faq&ID=d09d277334439e5ece97358dd62148fd

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/09 14:56:33 (permalink)
    hey thanks for the suggestions, i tried uninstalling the drivers but there was no result
     
    it doesnt show up in device manager or the MIDI-OX software.. windows just doesnt seem to know its there at all no matter what I do!
     
    I think I'm close to exhausting most of the issues here, no idea what to do next :/
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/09 15:29:54 (permalink)
    I also just tried plugging the keystation into my laptop just now but it doesnt recognise it either..

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/09 22:53:13 (permalink)
    Seems you probably have a defective keyboard. Where'd you purchase it from?

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 01:39:29 (permalink)
    Does the blue light come on when you switch the Keystation on?

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 02:51:32 (permalink)
    I bought it from dv247.com and yep the blue lights come on
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 03:04:48 (permalink)
    It matters where you get power to run it. If you are getting it from the USB port you may need to goto the properties of that port in device manger and be sure the power is always on. Ideally use a wall wart to power it and save the power drain from your PC. XP or Vista should alert you when you power it on if it is installed correctly.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 03:20:18 (permalink)
    I've tried powering it both from USB and plugging it into a wall and windows still doesnt see anything

    any other USB component I plug into the same port is recognised straight away, just not this
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 03:25:35 (permalink)
    It may be you have a defective unit. I am sorry about that.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 03:28:21 (permalink)
    It's ok haha

    I'd just like to thank you all for your help and quick replies, nice to know theres someone there to offer solutions if I hit another brick wall again!!

    I think I'll just return it and get another one, see how I get on from there :)

    thanks again!!
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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 05:01:08 (permalink)
    With your good nature I wish you the best. The course you will take is the right one. Besides it will be just that much newer.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 05:49:25 (permalink)
    I don't know if this applies to the M-Audio Keystation or not, but for my Evolution MK-249C USB midi keyboard which is also class compliant and does not require driver installation for XP, in device manager it shows up under Sound, video game controllers and is named USB Audio Device. By leaving Device Manager open, I can see the devices refresh when pluging in the usb cable, and it pops up under Sound, video game controllers.

    Again, I'm not sure if the M-Audio Keystation works any differently as far as being recorgnized by Windows in Device Manager, but I thought I'd mention it since where my MK-249C shows up in Device Manager and the generic name it uses can be easily missed.
    post edited by WDI - 2009/08/10 06:22:13

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 06:12:50 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: John
     
    It matters where you get power to run it. If you are getting it from the USB port you may need to goto the properties of that port in device manger and be sure the power is always on. Ideally use a wall wart to power it and save the power drain from your PC. XP or Vista should alert you when you power it on if it is installed correctly.
     

     
    Actually, M-Audio advises against using the wall wart IF the keyboard is going to be connected via USB cable instead of MIDI cable. The OP stated that the "blue LED" (power indicators) are coming on so his USB ports are providing power. He's tried two different computers with no success. I'm guessing the keyboard is defective and just isn't sending MIDI info via the USB cable.
     
    My only other guess is that the OP has a serious IRQ conflict with USB porting that's preventing his OS system from actually recognizing the Keystation but still sending power to it. I've heard of this happening with M-Audio USB devices conflicting with such things as USB ported webcams and/or video capture devices.
     
    Still, the fact that his keyboard isn't working on both computers bothers me. I have an M-Audio Keystation 88. USB connected to my computer and the MIDI cable output connected to additional keyboard synths which are MIDI connected to my M-Audio AP192's MIDI I/O's and the external synth audio outs connected to my mixer which feeds the M-Audio AP192 soundcard.
     
    Forgive the rambling, I'm just trying to help the OP get his situation straightened out.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 06:17:05 (permalink)
    Actually, M-Audio advises against using the wall wart IF the keyboard is going to be connected via USB cable instead of MIDI cable. The OP stated that the "blue LED" (power indicators) are coming on so his USB ports are providing power. He's tried two different computers with no success. I'm guessing the keyboard is defective and just isn't sending MIDI info via the USB cable.

    Extremely good points and I am glad you posted them. I avoid using USB with so many devices. I have a MIDI port that is USB. All my gear goes to it. Thats why I think about wall warts. LOL

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 06:53:04 (permalink)
    Is it an older Keystation, (black not silver)that says "Midiman"? (not M-Audio)

    The reason I ask is I had an one of the older 61 key units and I could not get it working on my XP system.  I also lent it to a friend with a MAC who could not get it working.   I think the older units have some driver issue that makes it difficult to install.  MAudios website suggested using the drivers for their newer keyboards - but that didn't work either.  I ended up giving the unit to a friend who uses it as a midi devise controller with the wall wart.

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2009/08/10 07:26:41 (permalink)
    WDI: I looked again through my device manager and it doesnt mention anything about a USB device anywhere when its plugged in. Thanks though!

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    Re:Keystation 49e 2014/06/08 12:42:28 (permalink)
    so this is an ancient post - but i had a similar problem with my keystation 49es not showing up in SONAR (Windows 7 64bit). after re-installing the driver and turning my computer on and off, i found that the issue was that i changed the cable to a longer cable that came with my printer. when i went back to the original cable that came with the keyboard it showed up fine. apparently it does not like longer cables or there's something specific to the OEM cable.

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