shakey.oberon
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quickfade edges?
Is it possible to set sonar to quickfade the edges of all clips to avoid clicks, like in acid or protools? I mean a default setting, not just selecting them and applying a fade
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 10:10:29
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In acid or tools, everytime I split a clip, it puts a very short fade at either edge, to stop it from clicking. Is there a way to set sonar to do that?
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 11:14:39
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If you snip things at the zero crossings, which there is a setting for, you shouldn't have the click to start with so no automatic bandaid needed.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 14:30:56
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fair enough, but that makes for much slower editing
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 14:44:00
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Isn't there a setting for that in SONAR (Split at zero crossing)? Shouldn't be any slower AFAIK.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 14:59:11
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i'm not sure, I know you can set it to snap at zero crossings, but if you have snap to grid on then it overides that, and some things like kicks and basses dont have zero crossings exactly where you want them
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 15:08:19
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also, this doesn't work if you select a number of clips on different tracks and split them simultaneously, because they all split in the same place
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 17:09:46
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I agree. I do this all the time and would love a solution.
ctrl-a (select all) and drag (minus -1) to automatically fade in (or out) would be great.
as it is if you do this, everything fades at a different rate.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 17:22:06
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I know, its infuriating!  The ideal solution is to have a setting whereby it simply applies a very short inaudible fade on either side of the split, automatically without you having to tell it. This could be a menu option which could be turned on or off as required
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/14 17:29:41
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shakey.oberon
Is it possible to set sonar to quickfade the edges of all clips to avoid clicks, like in acid or protools? I mean a default setting, not just selecting them and applying a fade
I am quite certain Sonar doesn't have that option, but for now, you can apply small crossfades across the clips at the same time. I don't remember the exact commands, but after you are done editing, then you can highlight them all, go to the fade menu (maybe Cntr-X or something) and then specify the fades you want applied across all clips. It will leave you with the same result, but you will have to deal with the clicking until you apply the cross fades on everything.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 06:22:12
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True, but this is something sonar should do automatically. Protools and acid have done it for at least 8 years.
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 08:06:00
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Sounds like a nice idea, you should throw in a feature request for it.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 08:17:12
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Yes, I did one yesterday, it would be cool if someother people did one as well tho, might make them take more notice 
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 09:30:06
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Yes, this would be a good feature to have and would speed up my work as well.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 10:42:55
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shakey.oberon
True, but this is something sonar should do automatically. Protools and acid have done it for at least 8 years.
I agree, it would be a good feature to have. For the balance, there are lots of good things PT doesn't do that SONAR does. SONAR has been ahead of PT in MIDI functions as long as I can remember. Always? One day, when the power of computers has multiplied from what it is now, we can have all the "must have" -functions from all sequencers in one.
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 14:38:27
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This is one of those no-brainer workflow issues (like key binding clip envelopes) that anyone who actually used the program for audio editing in a production environment would understand.
The best you can do right now is key bind the 'Process/Fade Selected Clip(s)' menu option.
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Chris of Arabia
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 14:49:29
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Kalle Rantaaho
shakey.oberon
True, but this is something sonar should do automatically. Protools and acid have done it for at least 8 years.
I agree, it would be a good feature to have.
For the balance, there are lots of good things PT doesn't do that SONAR does. SONAR has been ahead of PT in MIDI functions as long as I can remember. Always?
One day, when the power of computers has multiplied from what it is now, we can have all the "must have" -functions from all sequencers in one.
I like the idea too - works very well in ACID - now where's that feature request thingie...
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/15 16:40:38
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cheers guys, lets see if we can get the ball rolling 
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Chris of Arabia
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/16 08:40:44
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Turns out I was more serious thatn I thought - where is the feature request these days? I've been away...
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/16 08:53:02
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Chris of Arabia
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/16 11:42:44
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Thanks - request submitted
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/16 14:18:07
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Nothing to add, just a +1 in support of this feature as a time saving measure.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/16 16:33:56
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cheers, and I thought of another reason, snap to zero crossings doesn't work with stereo audio. One side might be on zero, but the other might be completely out of phase.
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/19 07:45:15
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Actually I cant see how I missed this (im only human lol) but select your clips, then go to process - fade selected clips, you can then select the fade in and fade out durations.
Sorry about that
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/19 08:22:46
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I know, but it is still something you shouldn't have to do
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shakey.oberon
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Re:quickfade edges?
2009/09/20 10:18:38
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besides, that is destructive editing, you can't undo it later
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