Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar??

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2009/08/29 18:54:52 (permalink)

Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar??

Ello' fellow rawkers!

I'm new to this forum and also bought my very first recording software with GTP4 with USB UA-1G!

Here's my issue, I'm can hear the drums and hear the bass when I click on it, however, even though I downloaded the latest drivers for the USB US-1G, I can't hear anything when I'm plugged in and running the program.

I changed my audio inputs to it, tried left channel, right channel and stereo options. I use my output as my sound card and my preview bus as my sound card.

Just can't hear it.

Can anyone help me out? I'd like to get started with the rock, so I can melt faces off with it.

Thanks!

-Nick
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    bayoubill
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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 10:29:05 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum Nick! Go to Options - then Audio and check the spot that shows your PC sound card.  You should also run the wave profiler shown at the bottom of that window. If that doesn't work come back to the forum and ask again. It also helps if you list your PC specs and sound card you' using. Good luck!

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 16:20:58 (permalink)
    Bayoubill!

    Thanks for the welcome and quick response.

    I tried the Wave Profiler and set my Input to the UA-1G and the output to my sound card. That's how I was able to hear the drum kit and the bass stuff.

    Still nothing from the guitar/vocal part when I set the input/output.

    I'm getting no levels visually nor can I hear them.

    Here is my computer sound card specs: Thanks for your help!! :)

    -Nick

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     Default Sound Playback: Yes
     Default Voice Playback: Yes
                Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_100A1102&REV_00
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                 Product ID: 100
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                Driver Name: P17.sys
             Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0514 (English)
          Driver Attributes: Final Retail
                WHQL Logo'd: n/a
              Date and Size: 6/15/2007 10:47:26, 1127936 bytes
                Other Files:
            Driver Provider: CREATIVE
             HW Accel Level: Full
                  Cap Flags: 0x0
        Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
     Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
                  HW Memory: 0
           Voice Management: Yes
     EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
       I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
                   Registry: OK
          Sound Test Result: Not run

                Description: OUT (UA-1G)
     Default Sound Playback: No
     Default Voice Playback: No
                Hardware ID: USB\Vid_0582&Pid_00e9&Rev_0100
            Manufacturer ID: 1
                 Product ID: 100
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             Driver Version: 1.00.0000.0000 (English)
          Driver Attributes: Final Retail
                WHQL Logo'd: n/a
              Date and Size: 11/18/2008 04:45:18, 110720 bytes
                Other Files:
            Driver Provider: Roland
             HW Accel Level: Full
                  Cap Flags: 0x0
        Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
     Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
                  HW Memory: 0
           Voice Management: No
     EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
       I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
                   Registry: OK
          Sound Test Result: Not run

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                Description: SB Live! 24-bit
      Default Sound Capture: Yes
      Default Voice Capture: Yes
                Driver Name: P17.sys
             Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0514 (English)
          Driver Attributes: Final Retail
              Date and Size: 6/15/2007 10:47:26, 1127936 bytes
                  Cap Flags: 0x0
               Format Flags: 0x0

                Description: IN (UA-1G)
      Default Sound Capture: No
      Default Voice Capture: No
                Driver Name: rdwm1098.sys
             Driver Version: 1.00.0000.0000 (English)
          Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 17:32:54 (permalink)
    Explain your connection  chain; ex. guitar into line in on the computer or guitar amp line out into input on the computer; are you using 1/8 in adapter etc. Can you post a screen shot of the audio options?

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 18:02:26 (permalink)
    This is a small picture but this is what i meant. I don't have GTP4 but its based off sonar. We'll get it going so don't worry           



    screen shot
    post edited by bayoubill - 2009/08/30 18:06:50

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 19:13:51 (permalink)
    Filmmakernick

    ..... I'm getting no levels visually nor can I hear them.

    Not trying to be funny Nick but have you actually put anything in these tracks to hear.


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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 19:27:40 (permalink)
    Howdy Bill gator's goin to bed in da bayou here hows those rues doin down under?

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 19:34:47 (permalink)
    bayoubill


    Howdy Bill gator's goin to bed in da bayou here hows those rues doin down under?


    Not too good Bill - we're a nation in mourning after Strummy's team fluked a win over us in the cricket. Expect to see some unseemly gloating from our English buddy.

    At least I've finally got a reason to play the blues now.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/30 20:34:48 (permalink)
    LOL Stummy gloat .. He'll at the least demand a pint!

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/31 10:05:08 (permalink)
    Nick,

    Several questions to add to Bill's and then I think we can get you going without issue.

    1. Would you be open to running both your input and output audio through the UA-1G?
    2. Did you click on the "R" record button (to arm the track for recording) for the particular track you are recording to? If so does it draw a wave from while you record? Is there a wave form present after you record?
    3. Are you getting any signal at all to the meters after the R button is clicked to arm the track for recording?


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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/31 10:22:52 (permalink)
    Hi Nick
     
    In addition to Bill and Docs' questions, I see the UA-1G has both WMD and ASIO drivers.
     
    What driver mode do you have selected in Options > Audio > Advanced ?
     
     
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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/31 11:11:36 (permalink)
    Isn't ASIO the suggested driver for GTP4?

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/31 11:46:49 (permalink)
    Yeah, that's what I'm getting at Bill.
     
    I also see a Soundblaster in the link so we could be dealing with mismatched sample rates?

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/08/31 21:02:47 (permalink)
    Wow! Thanks for all the replies gentlemen!

    Doc- I'd be open to using input and output to my UA-1G, as long as I could hear it! Haha! Would I have to switch input/output to hear the drum or bass tracks though? When I press the Record button, nothing seems to happen.

    Steve- For my Driver settings I have Recording Device set to the UA-1G and the play back set to my SB! Live Sound Card.

    Bill- Here is a screenshot of my audio options. In my driver mode, I have ASIO, WDM/KS and MME 32 Bit as options.

    Thank you very, very much for all your help!


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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/01 11:05:08 (permalink)
    Hi Nick, Yes you would be able to hear your drums, etc trough the UA-1G.

    So here is what you will want to do.

    1. Connect your speakers or headset to the UA-1G audio out. (it may also be necessary to disable your onboard sound card if the steps don't work the first time through. You do this by going to device manager. Finding the Sound, video and game controllers, open it up and right click on the sound blaster audio and disable it).
    2. Open GTP4 go to Options > Audio. Go to the advanced tab and make sure that the drivers for the device selected are the UA-1G. Also make sure that the option to share the driver with other programs is disabled.
    3. On the General tab. Select the UA-1G as both your recording and playback timing masters. Also make sure that the driver mode is ASIO.
    4. Click Apply and then Ok. The window will close.
    5. Go to Track view, Arm the appropriate track for recording. For input set the input to UA-1G Stereo. Select the output to go to the UA-1G. Plug in your guitar and press the "R" key and play something. See if you record any audio data. Press the space bar to stop the recording. Go back to the the start of the project. dis-arm the track. And press the space bar. You should hear playback through the UA-1G into your speakers.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/01 19:25:23 (permalink)
    That should do it. Thanks Doc. Nick you are now required to record us a tune so we can hear it.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/01 21:06:21 (permalink)
    Uh Bill? We haven't heard back from Nick yet. So hold on the owe us a song. And By the way my charges are only payable in Guinness. One pint, stout. No more. No less. Unless you answer to Steve and go by the moniker of SteveStrummerUK in which case the Limey owes this yank four (4) kegs and 12 pints of Guinness which he has owed me well nigh of three years or the like.... I should be charging interest. Just wait till he finds me knocking on his door. Remember Strummy I know where you live, mate.
    post edited by Doc_Hollingsworth - 2009/09/01 21:10:10

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/07 02:25:34 (permalink)
    Doc and Bill,

    None of those steps seemed to work, but I was a bit rushed at the time and have been tied up with work these past few days.

    I'll finally get some time off tomorrow and will sit down with it again and try and figure it out.

    I really appreciate all the help and as soon as I get a song recorded on it, up it will go for feedback and advice!

    Thanks guys!

    -Nick
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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/07 10:51:29 (permalink)
    I don't think we over here in the colonies should let that Aristocrat mentality go by unpunished! If need be I will start a "STRUMMY MUST PAY " fund. Let me know what you think.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/08 13:07:47 (permalink)
    bayoubill


    I don't think we over here in the colonies should let that Aristocrat mentality go by unpunished! If need be I will start a "STRUMMY MUST PAY " fund. Let me know what you think.


    Bill,

    It's not an aristocrat thing. It's a Strummy thing. Be careful, he might offer to watch over your amps and guitars for you.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/13 22:12:47 (permalink)
    Hey guys,

    So, I tried everything. I still don't hear my guitar and I'm not getting any levels in the UA-1G or the GTP4.

    I tried disabling my sound card and using the audio options in GTP4 to only run in and out through the USB of UA-1G.

    That didn't work. I even tried the most basic thing of turning up and down the volume on my guitar and the device, cause sometimes it is the most basic of things, right? Haha.

    That didn't work either.

    Nothing I do seems to work and here I thought all I had to do was install the program, update the drivers for the UA-1G, plug in my guitar and start recording.

    I know the program is more detailed than that, but to get started, I figured it'd be easier. My sound card, the Audigy Sound Blaster, is pretty recent and doesn't seem like it wouldn't be compatible.

    What could I possibly be doing wrong? Any clues or thoughts?

    I would really, really, love to start using this program, because it looks amazing. I just need to hear the guitar and see some levels, like I do with the virtual drums and bass. :)

    If anyone could help me get going, I'd appreciate it. I tried calling the help line last week and couldn't get through.

    You guys are my only hope here!

    Rock on.

    -Nick
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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/14 10:22:02 (permalink)
    Hi Nick,

    Sorry to hear that you are still having trouble. It is probably something simple. Just for clarity you have pushed the button labeled "R" for arming the track and you have set the input to the UA-1G Line in 1? And still no signal? Give me a couple of hours and I'll add some screen shots for you so you'll have some pictures to go along with the instructions.

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/14 15:08:29 (permalink)
    Doc,

    Thank you sir!

    Yes, I did try that and still no signal. It won't even record anything when I hit the R button. Pictures and instructions would help tremendously. I appreciate you taking the time sir.

    Here's hoping it is relatively  simple, and I'm sure it is.

    Thanks again!

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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/22 00:52:02 (permalink)
    Nick,

    Give me till the end of tomorrow to get you an example in picture form. I've been swimming in work. But I'll have a chance to get at the more important things in life tomorrow.



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    Re:Help! First time user of GTP4 and can't hear my guitar?? 2009/09/22 09:58:24 (permalink)
    Hi Nick,

    Please check out this knowledge base article (from the Guitar Tracks Pro 4 support page)

    http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx?ID=20090817

    Let us know if the steps in the article resolve your issue.

    Thanks,



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