upgrade P5 -> Sonar 8.5

I'm pretty sure you get a 'for cakewalk customers' discount at the very least. Go to the store and go to the sonar page and there should be a box where you check which version you want... that should show you if there's a break for you.

 where's the love?

  they kill the product, cannibalize the features and don't provide a crossgrade discount.

  I can see the point for those jumping onto P5 with the $99 download price, but for those of us who bought v1.0 at ??? -- 

 what that can't be ?
 I paid how much for this?

  I feel the fool.
  I been played.
 
 
 otoh
 It was a good run.
 We laughed. We cried.
 
  tbh I own Sonar (3 and) 5, but I'm probably more likely to upgrade from Live Lite 4 that came free with Trigger Finger to Live 8 than I would be to upgrade to Sonar 8/8.5 and then I may likely spend another bundle for Max for Live
  because I believe I'd have a lot more fun per dollar invested with that setup.
  And that fun per dollar invested ratio was the original impetus for the P5 purchase and  
 
 It was a good run.
 We laughed. We cried.

 I think P5 v1.0 was originally $429.
 Does anyone remember?

 I think I paid around $399 at the 1st Cakewalk dog and pony P5 tour at Guitar Center, Southdale.
 
 I think my receipt is in the original biodegradeable translucent plastic packaging (award winning no less).

 

Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to chime in to say that there is an upgrade pack available for P5 Users as seen here: http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CWSP8.50-20C 

Best,
Kate

Kate Watt [Cakewalk
]

Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to chime in to say that there is an upgrade pack available for P5 Users as seen here: http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CWSP8.50-20C 

Best,
Kate

Same page I was on yesterday! I copied all that info and posted it! Now it looks like that page has been updated.

 you are correct sir, my receipt date 07-01-03, indicates $269.99
  
 and includes the Cakewalk Project 5 Seminar Discount -- One Day Only 
 
 and it was Roseville, not Southdale GC
 what can I say they all look the same once you're inside

It's very, very disappointing Cakewalk didn't include the Matrix in Sonar 8.5.1 'Studio Edition'. This would have been a more 'budget friendly' alternative for customers wanting to upgrade from Project.5.

It seems fate has played it's hand in my decision.... apparently I'm not upgrading at all, can't login to my eStore account, sent two Emails to CW support, posted repeatedly on the forums in the same thread and still no reply.

AND!! I had also posted an important pre-sale question relating to 8.5.1.  Again, no reply from Cakewalk, just went straight past my post and ignored it.

Nick P


Don't be cheap. Producer Edition is such a good value there's no reason not to get it. I have no problem with the premium features being reserved for the premium version. As a Sonar 7 PE owner (skipped v8) I will still be able to get 8.5 producer for less than the cost of many single plug in synths or effects! It's just too much of a bargain not to go for it.

Okay, so I just checked. $350 for P5 users. Still a great deal. I paid $300 for Cubase Studio 5 - the "lite" version of Cubase. If I want the full version I pay another $250. Logic 9 is $500. Ableton is $500 or more.

Here's the thing: Cakewalk was close to giving Project5 away towards the end. So they can't make too much of a discount for P5 users based on that. Plus, most P5 users own Sonar - a later version - so they'll upgrade via that route if they choose.

Already spent loads of $$$ on previous Cakewalk products dating back to ver,4. Plus I spent loads of $$$ on plugins, I've got enough fxs and content to blast the neighbors to smitherines and I'm only just get warmed up LOL!!

My interest is on Producer Edition!! I didn't say I was going to purchase Sonar Studio Edition, I was merely generalising and pointing out that it didn't included the Matrix, cos' funny thing is when HomeStudio.8 is released guess what? it will most likely include the Matrix (don't you remember when HomeStudio7XL was release it got the StepSequencer) due to very different release dates SonarStudio didn't have the SS until later that year! Bloody hilarious!!! Looks like the Matrix Reloaded (dejavu) all over again.

Thanks for your suggestions, I may skip Sonar Pro' 8.5.1 (wait for ver; 9) meanwhile I'll get *Cubase Studio*  How's it going with Cubase Studio, have you manage to crash it yet?

Total cost upgrade form p5v1.0 to sonar 8.5 $300 + $349 = $649
Total cost to outright buy sonar 8.0 and upgrade free to 8.5  = $499

I have owned both sonar and p5 from v1.0 but I can understand why people feel slighted who purchased p5v1.0.

That is true along with the fact that P5 is no longer supported.

yes you are right bad choice of words on my part it is still being supported via email.
personally i would rather see continued development with no support.

Nick P

SongCraft

Thanks for your suggestions, I may skip Sonar Pro' 8.5.1 (wait for ver; 9) meanwhile I'll get *Cubase Studio*  How's it going with Cubase Studio, have you manage to crash it yet?

Oh yeah. Many times. But I'm running it on a marginally acceptable PC, 4 years old, loaded with other programs. Still, I'm able to achieve tight grooving hard-quantized MIDI sequences with it. I really like it. But I'm still considering the Sonar 8.5.x upgrade to run along side it (not both open at the same time of course).

It doesn't matter what computer you're running it on, Cubase still has some serious stability issues.  I'm running Cubase 5 (and 4 and SL3) on my more-than-adequately equipped quad core and it crashes repeatedly during any lengthy session.  It's an ongoing problem with Cubase - take a look at the SB forums.
 
As far as "tight grooving hard-quantized MIDI sequences" go, well the obvious contradiction in terminology aside (hard quantization is much different than "grooving"), there is no audible difference in MIDI sequences with Cubase, Sonar, Live 8, or Project5 on my end, whether I'm hard-quantizing them or not.  They each have their own methods of implementing groove and/or partial quantization, so they can't easily be compared in terms of how each responds to given parameters/values, but they're all very capable in that area.