8.5.1 Bug - Bus Input Gain not working [VERIFIED, BUGFIX COMING]

Ok... workaround found - I closed Sonar and opened project again. Bug/feature was gone.

Works fine here.

Can you show us playback with the meters active and with the meters set to the same resolution.

I don't trust the waveform drawing feature much and I'd like to see what your meters indicate relative to one another when the project is actively playing back.

I assume it is in pause. my old eyes can't see the dBFS scale on either meter so I was hoping to at least see them at the same resolution so that there is a chance to compare.

best,
mike

Friendly name? I always assume the term Main Out (within the context of Sonar) is the sound I/O hardware.

best,
mike

"can't hurt to ask."

especially when the other choice is making assumptions :-)

John


The trim is set -45 dB. What I don't get is the output set to main out? Shouldn't it be your card as in stereo this or that something?

Just to clarify :-).

So without envelopes I assume you are actually moving the slider during playback. Is that the case?

Is it only the sound that will not change in audible level? How about the waveform drawing? Does it refuse to change? Do the meters continue by not dropping in level as well?

I don't have a ready answer to your problem... at this point I'm just curious to fully understand what you are experiencing.

best,
mike

edit to add, John, I'm assuming he has purposefully adjusted the level to -45dB so as to demonstrate that setting the level has no effect on the output.

mike_mccue


So without envelopes I assume you are actually moving the slider during playback. Is that the case?

Is it only the sound that will not change in audible level? How about the waveform drawing? Does it refuse to change? Do the meters continue by not dropping in level as well?

I don't have a ready answer to your problem... at this point I'm just curious to fully understand what you are experiencing.

best,
mike

Yes, I moved the slider during playback. Before the problem began I had set the Master bus input gain to app. -6 dB to avoid clipping. But then in some point of working I began to hear clipping. I thought that I pushed just too hot tracks to the bus and tried to lower the input gain level. Nothing happened. Then I tried to change Drum Bus input gain, too, but without success. Slider works and I tested that I could create envelopes but Sonar omits them totally and uses probably 0 dB input gain level (not sure, maybe it's the last value that was there).

After this, I set the Master bus input gain to -45 dB and played the project for a while for the screen cap image in the 1st post of this thread.

Meters and  waveform previews show the actual playback volume levels and the cyan Output Volume slider works OK all the time.

OK this has got me running around in circles. The master bus is muted and the gain is set to -45 dB. And this is showing what? I am not getting this unless when it is not muted you can not change the gain at all. That is not a problem simply use the volume fader. I know that you are going to say I want to use the gain. My answer is I have only once or twice ever use gain to change anything on any track or bus. But this is mostly due to me having a CS to handle volume changes.  Gain is something I have always looked upon as a set it and forget it kind of thing. Its a hold over from the hardware days for me. You did not mess with the gain once it was set.

I know that my answer is not fixing the problem. It however will work. 

Hi guys,
 
I reproduced this. It happens only if you freeze or bounce something associated with that bus in that session and that bus has an input gain associated with it. I already have a fix for it in the code and it will be in the next update. Note that besides the obvious annoyance factor nothing is damaged in the project file, just the input gain parameter gets detached from the mixer which is why you hear a difference.
 
The workaround for now if you run into this bug is to close and reopen the project or to make a temporary change to reassign the bus input or output, which forces the mixer to reattach the input gain parameter. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks for the fix :-).

-Panu