My 8.5.1 Impressions

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2009/09/23 09:20:42 (permalink)

My 8.5.1 Impressions

I've played with 8.5.1 every day since it came available.  Impressions:

Pros:
  • Loop mode is MUCH smoother and more reliable than before. This is HUGE and very important improvement. Value: $45
  • It's FASTER. Feels like my Q6600 quad core has got two extra cores. Value: $99.
  • Cakewalk plugins are usable and I actually like to use them. Value: $40
  • New drum and vocal plugins are GREAT.  Value: $150
  • Bug fix update is coming. Value: n/a
  • Overall there are less crashes than in 8.3.1. Value: $50/week (reduced offline time)

Cons:
  • Motorboating has been totally gone. Did they forget to include it in 8.5.1?? Maybe it will be added in future releases.  Value: -$50     
  • Some 8.3.1 projects crash when they are opened in 8.5.1.  Workaround: use 8.3.1.  Value: -$40
  • 1st time I used AudioSnap2 it crashed :(.  And it was very sluggish. First cut is the deepest...  Value: -$30
  • Sonar crashed when I tried to load new convolution file in SIR reverb. Maybe occasional or plugin's fault (CJ, it's certainly not caused by my outdated audio driver ).  Value: -$10
  • 8.5.1 does not find GuitarRig3 full version. (I haven't solved this yet, maybe plugin manager / plugin scan fixes this.) Value: -$10
  • Many Steven Slate samples vere in FLAC format and SessionDrummer3 did not find them. I decoded them. Don't know if they have to be FLAC... but something was wrong. Value: -$10
  • Some Steven Slate kits don't load fully - status bar freezes after halfway.  But not a big problem - I use Addictive Drums and real drummers. Value: -$15
  • Input gain bug (reproduced, fixed in next update) disturbs mixing. Workaround: assign bus output to some other place, then back to original. Value: -$20

- Is it worth $99?
- Yes.
- How about 99 €?
- Yes but today one Euro is 1.47 Dollars. It's not fair to use fixed EUR price.

However, Sonar Producer Edition rock more than ever before!

-Panu


EDIT: Forum oddity: the 'Pros' section shows just like 'Cons' in message editor.
post edited by panup - 2009/09/23 12:31:00
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    ducatibruce2
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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 09:42:17 (permalink)
    8.5.1 does not find GuitarRig3 full version. (I haven't solved this yet, maybe plugin manager / plugin scan fixes this.) Value: -$10

    8.5.1 installs GR3 LE in the default install - based on my experience with 8.3.1 it will overwrite the full version - the solution was to uninstall GR3LE & reinstall the full version.
     

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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 09:50:25 (permalink)
    Yep, just uncheck GR3 Le when you install and you won't have the overwrite problem.


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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 09:59:11 (permalink)
    nice post, panup
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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 10:11:26 (permalink)
    When you install 8.5 choose to NOT install GR3 LE and your full GR3 is untouched and works perfectly.

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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 10:18:19 (permalink)
    Did you really "ding" them $50 for the motorboating flaw being gone?  At first I thought you were kidding, but then saw the removal of value it got.  Maybe I misread or I'm slow today or it was a few layers of sarcasm deep and I just missed it...

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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 10:25:47 (permalink)
    Yea, I think it's a great update and well worth the price although I too have had major problems loading certain 8.3 projects into 8.5.  I've sent a bundle file to the Bakers for forensic investigation but no word so far.

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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 12:19:13 (permalink)
    What is the best way to get GuitarRig3 full version back?
    I installed 8.5.1 with GuitarRig LE.  I did not guess that LE overwrites full version  :-/.

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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 12:25:36 (permalink)
    Blades


    Did you really "ding" them $50 for the motorboating flaw being gone?  At first I thought you were kidding, but then saw the removal of value it got.  Maybe I misread or I'm slow today or it was a few layers of sarcasm deep and I just missed it...

    LOL :D

    It was layered sarcasm, indeed ;)
    If Sonar doesn't motorboat anymore then I must to to my boat to hear that sound. More arduous.

    -Panu
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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 15:11:29 (permalink)
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    Did you really "ding" them $50 for the motorboating flaw being gone?  At first I thought you were kidding, but then saw the removal of value it got.  Maybe I misread or I'm slow today or it was a few layers of sarcasm deep and I just missed it...

    LOL :D

    It was layered sarcasm, indeed ;)
    If Sonar doesn't motorboat anymore then I must to to my boat to hear that sound. More arduous.

    -Panu


    So 3.5.1 doesn't do motorboating on your system and you did have that probelm before?  That alone would be worth the upgrade for me!
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    Re:My 8.5.1 Impressions 2009/09/23 16:00:20 (permalink)
    vintagevibe
    So 3.5.1 doesn't do motorboating on your system and you did have that probelm before?  That alone would be worth the upgrade for me!

    8.5.1 has motorboated exactly 0 times now.
    My setup: 2 x Fireface800 @ 44,1 kHz, buffer 512. Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi, 2 GB RAM, Win XP32bit, SP2.

    But it's still early to say it won't motorboat at all - maybe I have not tried to push it too hard yet.

    -Panu

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