mistermac9
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Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
I have an old Roland D-5 keyboard that I want to use with Sonar 8.5. The existing instrument definitions in Sonar do not include the D5. The Cakewalk website FAQ's point to two sites for .ins files, but neither site has one for the D-5. Google turns up nothing. I found a roland.ins file that contains definitions for many Roland keyboards, but not the D5. Does anyone know of a source for the .ins file for the D-5?
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/11 20:30:45
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I use the D-5 as one of my controllers - I dont think there are .ins files for it but I think there are D-20 files which should be compatable - dont quote me on that..
Really though you would probabaly be better of using it as a controller for softsynths - Those patches on the D-5 are pretty mediocre... TTS 1's patches are probably better ...
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/11 22:00:31
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Go to cakewalknet.com and download the instrument file for Roland (various instruments). It has the D-50 in it which should be similar. Its a plain text file, so you can easily edit it. I have some instructions on my website on how to make an INS file.
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mistermac9
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/11 22:32:39
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Thanks to both of you. I will check out the D50 and D20 definitions. I also heard that the D-110 matches up pretty well to the D5 definitions. If I need to define a file from scratch I will use Dave's FAQ link. D K, I agree the D5's sounds are not very good, but there is one patch I used for a song I sequenced a long time ago (in the early- to-mid 90's) that decided to work on again. One particular D5 patch I used in that sequence fit well and I haven't found a good substitute in my soft synths.
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/12 02:00:34
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I also heard that the D-110 matches up pretty well to the D5 definitions.
I was going to suggest that. IIRC, the D20 was a keyboard based on the D-110 sound module, and the D5 was a D20 with some controller features deleted (and maybe a smaller keyboard?), but using the same sound module. The D-110's not all bad. You can listen to some examples of it on my Soundclick page: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=757783 Both "Miles to Go" and "Café" are all D-110 except for the E.P.s. The main complaint I got on "Café" was that the kick and crash were wimpy... which they are. 
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/12 07:11:04
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The definition file for the D50 is already included in list supplied by Cakewalk, if that's of any use to you.
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/12 09:47:54
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/12 10:14:21
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the D-50 has nothing to do with the D-5. Except for the letters This is true. You can find an ins-file for D-5 here: http://www.rolandus.com/s...eName=D5FACT.zip This is a SYSX file containing the factory patch parameter data. It does not contain an Instrument Definition File (.INS) that SONAR can use to map the patches.
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/12 11:54:41
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Ludvig
Hey guys,
the D-50 has nothing to do with the D-5. Except for the letters ...
You can find an ins-file for D-5 here: http://www.rolandus.com/support/downloads_updates/eula.php?FileName=D5FACT.zip
Best Regards
Ludvig
Thanks, Ludvig. I downloaded the .zip file from your link, but it contains a .syx file rather than a .ins file. Edit: just noticed that the previous poster already pointed that out.
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/13 05:41:25
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2009/10/13 09:11:02
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Ludvig
Ooops. Sorry for misleading you. Found it on this page: http://www.rolandus.com/support/downloads_updates/general_apps.php
It sure did look like it was going to be an .ins-file :-)
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No problem. As you said, the description on that Roland page sure does make it sound like it would be the .ins file.
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2018/01/02 23:33:09
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Old thread, but I have an ins file that I've written for the performance patches if anyone is still interested (will need to find somewhere to host it)
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2018/01/03 01:38:48
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As an old Roland D10 owner, I can tell you that while the D10, D20 and D110 have the same patches, the D5 has a completely different set of Patches and Timbres to the aforementioned even though it is essentially a stripped down version, sharing the same architecture which means it should be Patch compatible without the effects of the others of course. Also, the D50 and D70 were completely different beasts, even though fundamentally based on Roland's LA architecture, they're not Patch compatible. As I've some experience of this subject and I've seen this topic come up reasonably regularly, I decided to write a refresher post, especially since some of the older posts are now referring to online resources which are no longer there. Hope this helps: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Instrument-Definition-Files-Cakewalk-Sonar-INS-Files-m3716587.aspx Cheers! :-)
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Re:Old Roland D5 keyboard - .ins instrument definition file?
2018/01/03 09:37:42
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AFAIK the D5 is closer to the MT32 than the D110.
I have both the MT32 and the D110. The main differences are:
- The waveforms and patches are different
- The D110 is organised as partials/timbre/patch/performance; whereas the MT32/D5/CM32L are organised as partials/timbre/patch with a single global performance.
Looking at the D5 manual, the patch list looks identical to the MT32 which is included in the Roland.ins file.
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