Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily

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May 30, 16 7:54 PM (permalink)

Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily

I have an eight track recording that I did live. Will sonar platinum choke if I render 45 minutes at once or should it be fine? Also I recorded the piano midi so need to render it as well. This is just a rough for the timing of the video so not concerned about quality. Should I be able to copy the recorded midi to True Pianos and it render effortlessly for 45 minutes?

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post edited by michael japan - May 30, 16 8:29 PM

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    Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 30, 16 7:58 PM (permalink)
    You want to render it with fast bounce or realtime? Either way should be fine but if you are doing it realtime you may wan't to bump up the latency a little to avoid a potential drops out.

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 30, 16 8:11 PM (permalink)
    Thank you Noel. Fast bounce. Appreciate the time.

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 4:53 AM (permalink)
    Wow--that was so fast--only took a few seconds to render. Thanks again for the help.
     

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 9:06 AM (permalink)
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    Wow--that was so fast--only took a few seconds to render. Thanks again for the help.
     




     
    You really mean it just took a few seconds for Sonar to render your 45 minutes long project ?! 
     
    Wow man... I really would like to know how that happened ? I guess all your tracks were purely audio with no effects, automation, and so on ? But still.... and yes, you did mention midi routed to True Pianos. 
     
    My Core i7 laptop takes at least a min to fast bounce 4 to 5 mins of a project with say 8 to 10 tracks, with lots of soft synths and effects of course. But still.... I guess your computer must be some ultra-tetra-futuristic fast one...
    I sure envy that kind of rendering speed man... 

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 9:19 AM (permalink)
    Well, I left the room thinking it was going to take 10 minutes or so but came right back and it was done-- don't know the exact time. Only 6 tracks drums, bass, guitar, one vocal and midi piano. Use Waves plug-ins on probably 3 busses and individual tracks. If I am doint a full scale production with Omnisphere, 30 tracks of various instruments and lots of envelopes, it takes about a minute for a 5 minute song. It is a smooth running computer though. Just upgraded to Windows 8 and not many extras outside of DAW related software.

    edit--oh, also since it was a rough only for timing for the video tech, it was only 16 bit--that makes a big difference.
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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 9:29 AM (permalink)
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    Wow--that was so fast--only took a few seconds to render. Thanks again for the help.
     




     
    You really mean it just took a few seconds for Sonar to render your 45 minutes long project ?! 
     
    Wow man... I really would like to know how that happened ? I guess all your tracks were purely audio with no effects, automation, and so on ? But still.... and yes, you did mention midi routed to True Pianos. 
     
    My Core i7 laptop takes at least a min to fast bounce 4 to 5 mins of a project with say 8 to 10 tracks, with lots of soft synths and effects of course. But still.... I guess your computer must be some ultra-tetra-futuristic fast one...
    I sure envy that kind of rendering speed man... 


    That's WAY too slow.
     
    My 100+ track 12 minute project with tons of Fx & plugins takes approx 30 seconds to render

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 9:47 AM (permalink)
    Export time is also proportional to the latency. At low latencies lower than 10 ms it will take longer generally.

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 9:59 AM (permalink)
     
    Yeah, I guess I do have a low latency setting, can't remember if its 10 ms or less but I think it should be at the 25 ms mark. Will check that when I get back home. It hasn't hampered smooth triggering of my soft synths or even playback of many heavy synths at a time, so I never really was pushed to increase it... at least to date... touchwood.
     
    Rendering directly to a compressed format (like .mp3) possibly takes longer than to a .wav format maybe ? 
    I render a lot mostly to .mp3 for quick sharing to family/friends by email/cloud.
     

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 10:07 AM (permalink)
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     Rendering directly to a compressed format (like .mp3) possibly takes longer than to a .wav format maybe ? 

    Yes because SONAR must export the wave and then encode the mp3 from the exported wave.
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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 10:20 AM (permalink)
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     Rendering directly to a compressed format (like .mp3) possibly takes longer than to a .wav format maybe ? 

    Yes because SONAR must export the wave and then encode the mp3 from the exported wave.




    Yeah. Thought so that was the case. Haven't rendered to .wav for quite a while. Will do a comparison soon to see how much difference it makes for me. Thanks and cheers...

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 10:49 AM (permalink)
    If I may make a suggestion, why don't you render to wav, then use winlame to convert to mp3. Do you not need a wav copy? Habit of mine as I always open up my rendered wav in SoundForge to see if there is clipping/xtra processing/left and right balance ok/frequency analyze/balance with other songs/rms values.

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 11:53 AM (permalink)
    I consider my wav exports as my masters.

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    Re: Can you render 8tracks 45 minutes easily May 31, 16 8:03 PM (permalink)
    My Sonar exports are pre-masters.

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