Recording Acoustic Guitar

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2010/01/26 20:03:21 (permalink)

Recording Acoustic Guitar

Looking for opinions,
I'm in the market for a new acoustic that I will use 90% of the time for studio recording. I planned to get one with electronics so I can DI the guitar as well as mic it and blend the sounds.
 
Do most just mic their acoustic? I use it in a variety of ways. Background strumming mostly, but also figgerpicking and gentle leads.
 
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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/26 22:43:57 (permalink)
    well it depends on the room you're recording in, if the room sounds nice then i recommend using the room and micing the guitar with small diaphram condensers. otherwise DI with some room reverb would do you better.


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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/26 23:19:48 (permalink)
    Do most just mic their acoustic? I use it in a variety of ways. Background strumming mostly, but also figgerpicking and gentle leads.

    I would thing everyone mic's their acustic guitar. Cause the built in pickups usually suck.
    When i reocrd acoustic, I use 3 mic's.
     
    One is placed near the whole
     
    One is placed near the 12 to 15th fret
     
    And one is placed near my Ear. Cause I like what i hear, so i want mmy mic to pick up what i hear. (I usually use a boom stand and place it in back of me and let the mic come over the top of my head, near my right ear.)
     
     
    I use 2 condensors and one SM57
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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/27 04:34:25 (permalink)
    Depends what you're after. Record a DI signal as well as micing it, then you can mix and match later, although personally, I'm yet to use a DI signal in a final mix. If you mic up your guitar well, it should be orgasmic.

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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/28 19:24:32 (permalink)
    Get a Seagull. I don't play one, but you don't want to spend the 8 large to buy the acoustic I play.

    I can recommend some nice mics and techniques.

    Check out the acoustic guitar in this music, it rules.

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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/28 19:31:23 (permalink)
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    Get a Seagull. I don't play one, but you don't want to spend the 8 large to buy the acoustic I play.

    I can recommend some nice mics and techniques.

    Check out the acoustic guitar in this music, it rules.

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    That's coincidence, I was in my local Long and Mcquade yesterday and fell in love with a Seagull performer they had. Amazing sound and the thing was only $650!!
     
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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/29 06:59:48 (permalink)
    A couple of years ago I bought a Takamine EG523SC.
    It's a great 'jumbo' acoustic, and has a pretty good pickup in it.
    For recording, i'll run the internal mic into one track, and mic the soundhole.  I blend them to around 80% soundhole/ 20% internal.  For live, the internal mic "will do."
     
     
    Here's a link to an instrumental, single-pass recording:  http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6602259
    It's just the two mics (1 internal, 1 condensor placed around 12-15 fret pointing towards the spot where the neck meets the body).  A little compression, a touch of chorus, and left alone.
    No EQ at all...
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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/29 08:06:07 (permalink)
    "I don't play one, but you don't want to spend the 8 large to buy the acoustic I play."

    Ah come on.... tell us what it is.




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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/29 12:20:25 (permalink)
    Most of the time, I just mic my acoustic at the 12th fret.  But I have also mixed the mic'd sound with direct sound recorded through a piezo pickup and LR Baggs preamp.  The direct sound gave me more presence, which I was looking for on a particular project.

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    Re:Recording Acoustic Guitar 2010/01/29 14:35:18 (permalink)
    Most of the music I work with here that's not my own is heavy on acoustic guitar. The guitarist I work with is quite the expert on acoustic guitar pickups, and he owns literally dozens of high-end guitars, from totally acoustic to multiple pickups and pickups plus built-in microphones.

    At his insistence, electric-acoustic guitars are always recorded simultaneously with at least a DI from the pickup plus an external microphone. The DI is always clean and dry, which I appreciate as the mixer. It's the one I end up using the most of.

    The external microphone, though, usually sounds better (the internal one sounds bad) - but then I have to deal with all the extraneous noises. The last song we did was marred by the creak of a leather guitar strap during a delicate intro, which required a lot of surgical editing.

    Furthermore, he records at four different studios, each with its own sonic signature. Some rooms sound great, others less so. This means fiddling with EQ and reverb (shh - he doesn't know I add reverb to his guitar!) to try and match up different tracks so they'll have a consistent (or at least cohesive) sound on the album.

    So if it was up to me, I'd go DI all the way. But I am just the mixer-slash-technical adviser, not the artist. The exception would be solo or featured acoustic guitar, in which case you do want to capture the room. For that, find a great-sounding large high-ceiling room with lots of diffusive surfaces like a brick fireplace, bookshelves, exposed beams and hardwood floors - but avoid un-draped windows or mirrors. IMO, the room you record in is more important than which mic you use.

    If you do go the route of DI plus mic, where you put the microphone is really critical. And it may not be the same place you'd put it if you were using the mic alone. Try to pick up the highs, which the DI may be weak at, and avoid the mud frequencies, which the DI will cover adequately. IOW, try to get from the mic what the DI doesn't provide and vice versa.

    Now, when I record my own cheap all-acoustic guitar, I have to make the most out of what I've got: a crappy room and a good but large-diaphragm condenser. The room's too dead and the LDC picks up too much mud. But I did a lot of experimentation with mic placement until I found the best spot for this guitar and this microphone (halfway up the neck, pointing at the 12th fret and elevated slightly). I record mono and nearly always double-track it, panning the two tracks apart and using complementary EQ for width. Give me a clean track and a good equalizer, and I can make any cheap guitar sound, um, adequate.


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