Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence?

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February 01, 10 11:47 PM (permalink)

Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence?

So, when I started recording years back, I inputted MIDI with my Roland digital piano. Just a digital piano, no MIDI controls.

Fast forward a few years - I moved and couldn't take the digital piano with me, so I got myself an M-Audio Oxygen 49 controller. Now, when I would record MIDI with it, occasionally, I would get changes in some MIDI parameters in the recording - I assumed this was a loose MIDI knob on the Oxygen getting wobbled my my hitting the keys, and this is what I got for investing in a cheap keyboard.

Now fast forward some more years - I moved again and have more space, so I thought it was high time I invested in another big keyboard. I got a StudioLogic SL-990XP this month. Now, I figured "This is a better quality keyboard, so I shouldn't have to deal with the same issue as I do the Oxygen 49." But guess what - the mod wheel on this controller actually wobbles and gets caught in my recordings more than the knob on the Oxygen.

So is this a normal thing that most people just ignore and learn to deal with... or do I just have ****ty luck with buying controllers?
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    travismc1
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    Re:Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence? February 02, 10 8:28 AM (permalink)
    Have used M-audio Oxygen 61 (silver) since summer of last year on several setups.  The 61 did fine in Windows XP and Sonar 6 and 8.  Once set, the settings stayed and were rock solid.  Switched to Windows 7 and Sonar 8.5 and I have had jitter, latency and parameter change issues.  M-audio does not provide a Win7 driver yet and asks people to use the "Class Compliant USB DRIVER" from Windows.  My issue may be operating system related rather than hardware related.  The issue could be Sonar 8.5 related.  I have not had the same problems testing Ableton Live 8.

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    MurMan
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    Re:Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence? February 03, 10 1:57 AM (permalink)
    It's common for continuous controllers to send spurious messages due to the vibration of playing.  Controllers that use analog pots and A/D converters are the worst.

    You should disable all controllers that you're not using in the keyboard if possible or tell Sonar to ignore these messages.

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    Re:Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence? February 04, 10 0:08 PM (permalink)
    How can I tell Sonar to ignore signals? I could easily do without the pitch and mod wheels on my new keyboard.
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    Re:Bad MIDI controllers or normal occurence? February 04, 10 2:02 AM (permalink)
    Open the Global Options dialog and select the MIDI tab.  Uncheck Controllers and Pitch Wheel.

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