sonardude
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is there anyway to make audio faster??
Is there any way to speed up audio without changing the songs pitch? The band recorded there song to slow and they don't want to re-record again so i was wondering if i could speed up the song anyway???? Thanks!!
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/07 21:24:12
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There is a Time/Pitch stretch DXi in Sonar 3 PE and older versions. Q.
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garrigus
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 10:48:37
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Hi Sonardude, You can convert the audio clips in the project to Groove clips - right-click each clip and choose Groove-Clip Looping from the menu. Then just change the tempo of the project. The audio should change tempo as well without changing pitch. You won't be able to change the tempo too much though without starting to hear noise artifacts in the audio. Best regards, Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge and Sound Forge 6, SONAR, SONAR 2 and SONAR 3 Power! books. All books 30% off at: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free copy of Native Instruments' INTAKT software loop sampler and learn cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... over 15,000 readers can't be wrong! Go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 10:56:19
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Alas, I am afraid that if the whole song was recorded too slowly, doing any type of post-production speed alterations will most often degrade the sound quality too much to ignore... Unless we are talking about stretching or shrinking no more than perhaps 2-3% (but even that can become too noticeable). But I am confused... If each track is in tempo with each other, why not just have an overall song that's a few bpm slower than what was originally planned? Unless of course it was to be a mosh-pit slammer, but got recorded at 65bpm...
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 11:01:35
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If I recall, there is a limit to the size of wave that can be groove enabled. Its definately shorter than a song-length.
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 11:23:38
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There is a limit to the "number of events" that can be "groove clipped"...I don't remember exactly what it is...but if you try to "groove clip" a whole track...you'll get a pop up that'll tell you the maximum number of events...
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 13:52:32
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ORIGINAL: sonardude Is there any way to speed up audio without changing the songs pitch? The band recorded there song to slow and they don't want to re-record again so i was wondering if i could speed up the song anyway???? Thanks!! OK ckeck out http://www.cakewalk.com/forum/tm.asp?m=118458&mpage=1&key=&anchor#177496 The groove clips have a length limitation. The time strecth from Cakewalk is weak soundwise. Artifacts galore. The free plugins work, but are not great. Also unstable on my machine. Acid will do the job, but you will have trouble controling Acid if you want to reset the time on each individual track. In other words, Acid can do the whole song after it is mixed. Waves is super expensive, but it is what you want if pro results are required, and you want to adjust each track before mixdown.
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garrigus
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 14:22:43
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True there is a limit, but I was thinking that he might have several shorter clips in each track rather than one long clip in each track. Plus, you could also try splitting the longer clips into shorter ones and Groove clip from there. Best regards, Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge and Sound Forge 6, SONAR, SONAR 2 and SONAR 3 Power! books. All books 30% off at: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free copy of Native Instruments' INTAKT software loop sampler and learn cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... over 15,000 readers can't be wrong! Go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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cmusicmaker
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 14:55:02
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ORIGINAL: pharohoknaughty The time strecth from Cakewalk is weak soundwise. Artifacts galore. I really hope this will be addressed in Sonar 4. I actually rewired a drum loop from Live 3 into Sonar 3...two bars long at 95bpm then groove clipped it. On play back I heard what sounded to me like some kind of click or pop. I thought surely Sonar can handle groove clipping a file without changing it's tempo and not have any artifacts...! The project tempo in Sonar was exactly the same as the drum loop from ableton live...95bpm! So I played the same file back in Live 3 and no artifacts, clicks or pops! So back into Sonar and the click and pop shows up again...so I disabled groove clip looping on the drum loop and guess what? The loop sounded exactly the same as it did in Live 3. No clicks or pops. I was amazed...! If you cannot time stretch any loop without artifacts then it really needs to be improved. Many have said that Acid is better for timestretching. I use a pair of Samson reslove 80a's and I can accept it wont happen with every file thrown at Sonar and that many of you will never had had such an experience but for it to happen once like that made we very wary of using groove clips at all. Groove clips for midi yes but not audio. So what are your experiences guys, stretching audio then? How far (BPM) can you go in either direction...? 5 bpm? 10 bpm? Questions for all really... Are a certain amount of artifacts acceptable in your work? Sonardude I suppose you could bounce the whole song down to one file and then try and groove clip it but if you are going up or down by more than 5 - 10 bpm... I do not think the results would be acceptable but that's just my view... I would certainly like to know how good the results are for you.
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 15:59:56
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cmusicmaker....I use the Resolv 80as too and really think they were a great deal. Lots of folks think "Samson?Really?", but the price piont/performance ratio can't be ignored! Oh...to answer your question.... Time Factory works like a charm with very little sonic artifacts. Pricey, but very good.
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cmusicmaker
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 17:16:31
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ORIGINAL: Sonic cmusicmaker....I use the Resolv 80as too and really think they were a great deal. Lots of folks think "Samson?Really?", but the price piont/performance ratio can't be ignored! Oh...to answer your question.... Time Factory works like a charm with very little sonic artifacts. Pricey, but very good. Yes the Resolv's are brilliant I could not stretch to the Mackie HR824's but hear the Samson's are possibly as good either way. I was told that unlike some manufacturers Samson make all their own amplifiers and hardware so the speakers are Samson from start to finish, from the ground up. Can't verify it but they sound great. Time factory...Prosoniq right? If that is correct then they use the MPEX alogirithim which I think is used by Cubase SX.Apparently Reflex uses this as well. If you get Computer music magazine over there then issue 77 will have a free fully working CM version of Reflex on the cover CD!
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Sonic
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 18:08:18
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ORIGINAL: cmusicmaker ORIGINAL: Sonic cmusicmaker....I use the Resolv 80as too and really think they were a great deal. Lots of folks think "Samson?Really?", but the price piont/performance ratio can't be ignored! Oh...to answer your question.... Time Factory works like a charm with very little sonic artifacts. Pricey, but very good. Yes the Resolv's are brilliant I could not stretch to the Mackie HR824's but hear the Samson's are possibly as good either way. I was told that unlike some manufacturers Samson make all their own amplifiers and hardware so the speakers are Samson from start to finish, from the ground up. Can't verify it but they sound great. Time factory...Prosoniq right? If that is correct then they use the MPEX alogirithim which I think is used by Cubase SX.Apparently Reflex uses this as well. If you get Computer music magazine over there then issue 77 will have a free fully working CM version of Reflex on the cover CD! Funny...I just won a remix competition and the prize is a year's subscription to Computer Music mag!
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/08 18:37:10
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what about the loop construction view ? I use this all the time ,that is changing times (tempo)and pitch non destructivly..... it's a cakewalk
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/09 01:44:51
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Hey also check the key setting is set to none or it's C by default. That caught me a few times.
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cmusicmaker
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RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2004/08/09 02:22:13
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ORIGINAL: Sonic Funny...I just won a remix competition and the prize is a year's subscription to Computer Music mag! Well done. It is a brilliant magazine you will love it!
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Re: RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2011/10/21 12:15:12
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Maybe I have not fully read this topic, but I am from Germany and with some phrases I'm not that familiar. I have a similar problem, but in the other direction. I want to strech an audio file, but without restrictions to the bars it is originally long. E.G. I have an audio file with 8 bars and I want to stretch it. I do this with the "Length" function, if it is called so in English. But when I do this, it is slower, but it aborts after the 8 bars. How can I do that? Only to be haunest, I am blind, so please avoid mouse klick tipps if it is possible. Thanks allot.
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Re: RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2011/10/21 12:27:50
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this is an old thread and doesn't necessarily apply to modern versions of sonar because audio snap is available in newer versions. which version do you have?
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AlexL
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Re: RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2011/10/21 12:43:07
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Sorry, I put my information in my signature now.
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Re: RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2011/10/21 13:04:28
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ok, actually you're in the wrong forum, then. this forum is for Sonar 8.5 and below. but audio snap is probably the best way to do what you're wanting. since you are visually impared, it will be difficult for you to see video tutorials, right? there are video tutorials on audio snap at youtube. I don't use audiosnap myself, so I would not be a very good candidate to try to explain it using words. you should check out the help files about audio snap and beyond that there's always the option of getting Scott Garrigus' book on X1 which I'm sure audio snap is covered in that. someone else who uses audiosnap might be able to help you more if someone else sees this thread.
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AlexL
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Re: RE: is there anyway to make audio faster??
2011/10/21 13:38:20
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Okay, thanks allot anyway. Maybe someone could send an pm or e-mail to explain. nevertheless I will try to follow the instructions in the help files.
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