SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please.

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2010/02/05 05:18:19 (permalink)

SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please.

I recently purchased a Roland TD4 elect drum kit.  I like the EZdrummer samples better than the Roland sounds. I want to trigger EZdrummer with midi out of TD4 to my FF800midi in.
 
I want to be able to put each PAD on a separate track in SONAR. I can do this
 now using EZdrummer builtin grooves mixer. I need to learn how to assign the TD4 pads to the EZmixer...I guess.
 
I will read the manual today and try it.
 
Any tips appreciated,
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 07:13:52 (permalink)
    Hi Jeff. When you open the EZ mixer I believe in the upper left there is a drop down box. Select multi channel. On the lower portion of the mixer you can also assign specfic tracks to specific drums. Track 1 = kick, 2 = snare and so on.
    I believe this is what your asking for. However, I also have the Latin Percussion kit, and you have to assign your specific roland pads to it. The way I did it was to open the kit so that I'm viewing it, then on your TD4 module go to assign note. You will see that as you select different midi notes on the module that it will control different parts of the latin percussion kit. When your finished assigning the midi notes, save it.
    I actually have saved kit 2 on my td so that it controls my Latin percussion kit. Kit one controls my Nashville kit and so on.
    Hopefully this helps you.

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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 07:24:31 (permalink)
    THAT'S GREAT NEWS....just what I wanted to hear.
    thanks,
     
    another question: I have a new Dell laptop Studio. Im thinking to load EZdrummer in it for live gigs. I wonder if the stock sound card will produce the EZ sounds. Will try that out.
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    post edited by downsouthstudio - 2010/02/05 07:31:50

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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 08:17:48 (permalink)
    I use a Roland TD-12 kit with EZ-Drummer and Superior 2.  I much prefer Superior 2 with the roland kit as I think they've built Superior 2 with electronic kits in mind.  EZ-Drummer will work, but you might be disappointed in the midi capturing with regards to the hi-hat (specifically open/opening/closing/closed detail).

    Now with that said, you will be able to capture your TD-4 into Sonar via mapped midi notes to the kit in EZ-Drummer. 

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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 09:11:14 (permalink)
    Thanks Tom ....
    Its a shame I even have to use EZ or Superior...looks like Roland would have put better sounds into the kit. I cant EQ the snare and sizzle, to sound anywhere near what I want. The snare always sounds hollow, like the underwires are missing..not crispy.
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 11:36:54 (permalink)
    Hi Jeff,

    First download the Ezdrummer template at  http://www.toontrack.com/downloads.asp
    it's way at the bottom pf the page under "extra downloads"
    This will give you separate tracks for EZDrummer in Sonar.

    Also, watch Blades video on setting up drum maps.
    http://www.blades85.com/sonar.htm

    Good luck with this......I'm going thought the same thing setting up a Yamaha Set!

    Best,
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 12:24:35 (permalink)
    Tom is right about the hihat with EZ.

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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 14:29:18 (permalink)
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    Hi Jeff,

    First download the Ezdrummer template at  http://www.toontrack.com/downloads.asp
    it's way at the bottom pf the page under "extra downloads"
    This will give you separate tracks for EZDrummer in Sonar.

    Also, watch Blades video on setting up drum maps.
    http://www.blades85.com/sonar.htm

    Good luck with this......I'm going thought the same thing setting up a Yamaha Set!

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    Thanks Michael,
    Im new at this....
    Ive downloaded the template zip. Is this something that I dont already have within EZ. Would I load this into my project and all is setup for the Roland TD4?
     
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 15:23:14 (permalink)

    Thanks Tom .... Its a shame I even have to use EZ or Superior...looks like Roland would have put better sounds into the kit. I cant EQ the snare and sizzle, to sound anywhere near what I want. The snare always sounds hollow, like the underwires are missing..not crispy.
    I use superior2.0 with Roland TD3 v-drums and you have total control of the sounds. For example there are 3 seperate mic's for the snare and you can insert effetcs form inside superior's GUI and you it also has tools to shape and alter any of the drums. Its amazing what sounds you can get with it. Its very very flexable and stand by it
    Cj
    Edit; I just wanted to add that Superior Drums where made with Electronic drums in mind. It was made to work well with them and it does!!
     
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/05 16:55:04 (permalink)
    +1 For CJ's advice.....

    Another one to consider is XLN audios Addictive drums....great sounds, and with the new Adrenaline update, vdrums are mapped very easily.

    My drummer prefers the default sounds of addictive drums.....but superior has more sound shaping flexibility
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/06 02:12:22 (permalink)
    THANKS to all...I will play with EZ..maybe go on to Superior down the road.
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/06 04:29:31 (permalink)
    another thumbs up for superior here. I used EZD for a couple of years, I guess, then got a $80USD cross grade offer for Superior, did it, and have been amazed. Everything everyone has said here is true, and then some.  The real difference is the hi-hat, and that, with superior 2.0, is really something. EZD just never was gonna really work for hats. I just had to keep it simple. much less so with S2.0.

    Kepp an eye out for those cheap crossgrades from toontrack.
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/06 23:26:27 (permalink)
    Jeff, I just watched you video LMAO...  Your gonna end up being one of those famous youtube stars...

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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2010/02/07 12:45:07 (permalink)
    Well, hate to make it a Superior fest but the product is just amazing. For country, pop, jazz or R&B I dare you to track a better sound in a home studio. You have access to the best drum kits in the best drum rooms using the best gear on the planet. It works flawlessly with the Roland e-drums.

    I do use EZ for tracking however because it loads fast and then later I convert to Superior for mixing.
     
    Watched the video too. Don't drink and record is all I can say. Songs like that may never get written.
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    Re:SONAR, EZ drummer, and Roland TD4 setup advice.please. 2013/10/29 23:42:24 (permalink)
    Hello everyone my name is pete,
     
     I need help to record midi or at least just connect my td4 to sonar HOWEVER I have already kind of acccomplished this because I can put "one-shots" into the matrix and trigger them with the td4. But I would like to control the session drummer or the other ones and I cannot do that. I don't have ezdrummer and it is nice but I am just looking to work with what I have. Please any help or a phone number if I can call you sometime to have you run me through it I would greatly appreciate it
     
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