Lanceindastudio
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missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
So I read a thread on this problem, and they suggest to delete sonitus stuff and reinstall them from a previous version...
Seriously, a friend brings a project over that he opens in sonar 8.3.1 no rpoblem, but in my 8.3.1, it says the sonitus:fx reverb plug-in is missing on all of its instances...
I lookin my plug-in manager of course, and they are there... as the same exact name...
I guess it is the curse of the dx registry "things get screwed up syndrome", and they havent fixed it...
Wow-
Still, I love this product, company, and user base, and that being said, I welcome any input!
I mean people, these projects are for a pretty big record release, and I vouch for sonar in the midst of major industry players these days that are all pro tools lovers, namely the black eyed peas camp...
I feel kind of stupid when things like this happen...
Im standing up for us in front of people like Will.i.am and Jimmy Iovine...
Well, in defense of sonar, dx ended up being a problem, which cakewalk/roland recognizes and has developed the new plugins that come with it as vst and not dx.
Trust me I have been in the room with these pro tools guys and seen bad things happen, possibly worse than this, but still, come on, I dont wanna look bad! I use sonar! Im cooool!!! hehe
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 05:27:26
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Lanceindastudio
So I read a thread on this problem, and they suggest to delete sonitus stuff and reinstall them from a previous version...
Seriously, a friend brings a project over that he opens in sonar 8.3.1 no rpoblem, but in my 8.3.1, it says the sonitus:fx reverb plug-in is missing on all of its instances...
I lookin my plug-in manager of course, and they are there... as the same exact name...
I guess it is the curse of the dx registry "things get screwed up syndrome", and they havent fixed it...
Wow-
Still, I love this product, company, and user base, and that being said, I welcome any input!
I mean people, these projects are for a pretty big record release, and I vouch for sonar in the midst of major industry players these days that are all pro tools lovers, namely the black eyed peas camp...
I feel kind of stupid when things like this happen...
Im standing up for us in front of people like Will.i.am and Jimmy Iovine...
Well, in defense of sonar, dx ended up being a problem, which cakewalk/roland recognizes and has developed the new plugins that come with it as vst and not dx.
Trust me I have been in the room with these pro tools guys and seen bad things happen, possibly worse than this, but still, come on, I dont wanna look bad! I use sonar! Im cooool!!! hehe
I'm guessing at this - but Sonar always installs "Sonitus" plugins. So I would suspect that the other user installed them somewhere other than the default location - which, while strange, is doable. DX plugins have become "ancient" in some ways - but the Sonitus plugins should certianly be there if they were installed to "default" locations. IF someone installed their 'default' Sonar installation to something other than "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk" (etc), then that would explain it. The question is - do YOU have your Sonitus plugins normally? That is, can you see them in YOUR normal workflow? If so, then I suggest the other users did NOT use defaults. I could be wrong - and it wouldn't be the first time ;)
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 07:05:16
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Lance Try running the installer from the DVD and just selecting the Sonitus suite at install time. It will re-register the dll's correctly, I've had it happen before that a registry entry has come adrift on a DX plug (I can't remember which one) and that was the solution that worked for me. As for keeping your cool factor, just tell 'em you don't normally have the Sonitus verb on there as you normally prefer the vintage algo of the Studioverb, so you'll have to put it on specifically for them. Is the ability to BS a dying art?... 
post edited by Jonbouy - 2010/02/21 07:10:38
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Lanceindastudio
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 13:44:55
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haha I always BS them lol... Yeah it must be his plugins in wrong folder, because mine are correct, and also, Ive already tried installing just the sonitus plugins a few times. I even tried installing just them from an older sonar just in case... no luck But... even if their dx are installed elsewhere, I just figured if sonar knew I had that plugin, it wouldnt matter where they were installed if it already knew about it and has it in the list... At least thats how it works with VST's
post edited by Lanceindastudio - 2010/02/21 13:54:58
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 14:03:28
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I do notice that when I insert "sonitusfx: Reverb", in the plugin bin, it just says "reverb", but on his project, in the bin, the missing plug-in "place holder" if you will, reads "sonitusfx: Reverb"
So Im wondering where I should change the plugin name properties to maybe get it to be ablt to be found lol
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 14:10:56
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Hi Lance- At least thats how it works with VST's As I understand it, VST's don't require a unique CLSID entry in the Windows Registry, but DX FX do, so they have to be registered properly. You can't just point to the folder they reside in. -Susan
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 14:25:42
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I do notice that when I insert "sonitusfx: Reverb", in the plugin bin, it just says "reverb", but on his project, in the bin, the missing plug-in "place holder" if you will, reads "sonitusfx: Reverb" FWIW: If I insert the Sonitus reverb it shows "Reverb" in the FX bin, and if I insert the Cakewalk FxReverb, it shows "FxReverb". Still, it seems like it should pick up the Sonitus Reverb, since it sounds like you have it properly installed. You've already tried re-scanning your VST and DX plugins, right? -Susan
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 15:00:29
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Seriously, a friend brings a project over that he opens in sonar 8.3.1 no rpoblem, but in my 8.3.1, it says the sonitus:fx reverb plug-in is missing on all of its instances... One of you could be running the 64 bit version of Sonar. This can cause these problems. My thinking is he is but I don't know. It should not matter where your plugins are or how they are configured on your system. What matters is that they are listed in the plugin manager. If he is using a version that is not in compliance with yours its possible that Sonar will not see yours as the same plugin. Also there was a content update with Sonar 8.3 that included some plugins. Again this could be the cause of the this problem. It should not be an issue but I think its due to the way Sonar judges what plugin is what. It is not solely by name. There is sort of a check sum of each plugin that determines what it is to Sonar.
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 15:46:57
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Yeah I figured it is a matter of the recognition being too complex John hehe... Vst seem to be way less picky about this stuff
He is 32 bit Im almost positive-
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 15:59:15
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So you have tried re-scanning your DX plugins as suggested in post #7, correct?
-Susan
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 16:30:16
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You don't scan DX plugins. They present themselves via the registry.
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 16:40:40
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You can scan DX plug-ins in other hosts (REAPER and FL Studio, for example). The Sontius:FX Reverb worked for me in SONAR 8.5.3, but not in REAPER until I re-installed and re-scanned my DX plug-ins.
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 16:59:15
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Susan G
You can scan DX plug-ins in other hosts (REAPER and FL Studio, for example). The Sontius:FX Reverb worked for me in SONAR 8.5.3, but not in REAPER until I re-installed and re-scanned my DX plug-ins.
-Susan
Because Reaper uses that term does not mean it is actually doing so. Hosts that have a Direct X history simply check the registry for any DX plugins. Cubase and Steinberg coined the term scanning for the VST plugins. There is nothing to scan with DX plugins as such. VST stands for Virtual Studio Technology a Steinberg invention. DX is a Microsoft convention. In Sonar if you install a DX or MFX DX or DXi plugin there is no need to "scan" for it. It will show up in the plugin manger without any scanning. Also if you do a scan in Plugin Manager what shows up is a bunch of VSTs and VSTis in the scan window. I have never seen it show a DX plugin in that window. The same is true of Sound Forge too. You only scan for VSTs.
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 17:07:49
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Hi John-
Well, it worked for me in REAPER.
-Susan
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
2010/02/21 18:52:03
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Scanned more than once of course, but thanx for suggesting as even though I build my rigs from scratch, we all can miss things sometimes-
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Re:missing plug-ins sonitus:fx reverb
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