ChuckC
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is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
I have a new daw ordered & ordered 8.5studio to be installed on it. I have about 3 days if I want to upgrade prior to them shipping it. I am going to be recording mostly guitars, bass, vocals, & drums, though with the drums I pland to record midi w/ my roland v kit & would like other drum sounds I could use the roland to trigger them? Other than that.... My recordings are pretty organic, no crazy synths or bizarre effects. So would producer & the included plug ins be that much better for me ya think? I figured people who have produce might be able to tell me if it's worth the extra $190. Thanks in advance!
ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's, lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's, DI's, Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t. http://www.everythingiam.net/ http://www.stormroomstudios.com Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
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papa2005
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/22 16:57:17
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Check the comparison chart on Cakewalk's website...Then you can decide if the "extras" included in Producer are things that justify the additional cost...Nobody can determine what YOU need...Ony YOU can make that decision... The side by side comparison chart can be found HERE.
post edited by papa2005 - 2010/02/22 17:04:06
Regards, Papa CLICK HERE for a link to support for SONAR 8.5 CLICK HERE to view a list of video tutorials... CLICK HERE for a link to Getting Started with Session Drummer 3...
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/22 17:00:10
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You might want to see if you will be eligible for the current $99 upgrade from studio to producer.
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/22 17:35:21
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My short answer is it's always good to have and not need than to need and not have...Producer is hot!!
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CJaysMusic
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/22 17:47:19
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Producer is better for me, I have no clue if it would be better for you. Look at the features producer has and make a decision based on your needs Cj
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ChuckC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 12:39:58
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I realize that ultimately I have to choose, I was hoping that I would hear either: "Yeah that sounds like what I am doing & studio has been plenty for me.... " Or "dude, your gonna be lost without some of the content in producer like X, Y, or Z"
ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's, lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's, DI's, Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t. http://www.everythingiam.net/ http://www.stormroomstudios.com Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
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leapinlizard
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 13:01:02
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Well, okay, I'll bite ... I use Studio 8.5, and it's plenty for what I want to do. Your needs sound similar to mine, as I don't use a lot of effects or over-the-top software synths either. I do own a few extras, like EZ Drummer, some of the IK Multimedia T-Racks plugins and Rapture, which I bought when it was on sale, so I really couldn't justify the extra cost of Producer. Another thing to consider is the "overwhelmed" factor - if I would have gotten Producer, I would still be trying to figure out what all those extra bells and whistles do, and how I would use them, which for me would have only added to an already full plate of things going on. Studio was overwhelming enough with some of the new features included, and it contained pretty much everything I thought I would need without being overloaded. Would Producer be nice to have? Sure, if I could have afforded it at the time, but I was unemployed and trying to watch my $$$ closely. All in all, I still feel I made the right decision, because Studio does everything I want it to do and more.
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ChuckC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 15:15:24
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I appreciate it Leapinlizard, Thanks. Any feedback makes the decision a bit easier to make.
ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's, lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's, DI's, Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t. http://www.everythingiam.net/ http://www.stormroomstudios.com Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
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papa2005
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 15:21:31
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ChuckC I realize that ultimately I have to choose, I was hoping that I would hear either: "Yeah that sounds like what I am doing & studio has been plenty for me.... " Or "dude, your gonna be lost without some of the content in producer like X, Y, or Z" Nobody knows what you're "gonna be lost without...". Check out the comparison chart. I'm not gonna say yea or nay for either one. I know nothing about your recording skills or the music you're primarily doing. Your question is along the same lines of "What's the best guitar to buy to use in SONAR?" There are tons of subjective opinions, none of which amount to a hill of beans. For years I was quite happy using SHS6XL along with the third party "extras" I had purchased from other vendors. When I moved into the 64-bit realm I made the decision to upgrade to 8.5 Producer. Nobody convinced me to make that decision. I took plenty of time weighing the cost factor vs. the benefits. SONAR 8.5 PE won out. I don't regret that decision.
Regards, Papa CLICK HERE for a link to support for SONAR 8.5 CLICK HERE to view a list of video tutorials... CLICK HERE for a link to Getting Started with Session Drummer 3...
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 15:37:02
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Producer provides you with things you probably wouldn't buy - that's how I look at it. Most people go for fancy plug-ins and gear but you also need a few extra tools to do the other less glamorous parts and Producer is good for that.
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paulo
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 18:01:05
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mike_mccue You might want to see if you will be eligible for the current $99 upgrade from studio to producer. I've not seen this offer - but if it's correct then it's a no-brainer really - easily worth the extra even if you don't want the synths.
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papa2005
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 18:12:16
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I upgraded from SHS6XL to SONAR PE 8.5 for (I believe) $289 USD...IMO, one of the best under $300 investments I've made in my studio.
Regards, Papa CLICK HERE for a link to support for SONAR 8.5 CLICK HERE to view a list of video tutorials... CLICK HERE for a link to Getting Started with Session Drummer 3...
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ChuckC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 20:56:28
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Alright.... I'm going with PE, Looks too damn cool not to. Thanks fellas!
ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's, lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's, DI's, Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t. http://www.everythingiam.net/ http://www.stormroomstudios.com Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
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CJaysMusic
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 21:01:50
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Great choice!!!!! Hows the west coast???
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ChuckC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/23 22:19:06
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Pretty good, was a nice day today. The town I live in (& my house) was devastated by hurricane charlie in 04 & has recovered nicely by now. All is well. Nice hair do by the way.... I am shaved up top myself. I know I have no photos on here but ... check out my bands page (I let the band fall apart 3 weeks ago when I decided to quit it & just write & record for myself) http://www.myspace.com/jacksomebodymusic
ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's, lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's, DI's, Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t. http://www.everythingiam.net/ http://www.stormroomstudios.com Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
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papa2005
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 01:47:58
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ChuckC Alright.... I'm going with PE, Looks too damn cool not to. Thanks fellas! I don't think you'll regret it. Another "plus" is the additional discounts you'll receive on future upgrades by being a registered user of PE...
Regards, Papa CLICK HERE for a link to support for SONAR 8.5 CLICK HERE to view a list of video tutorials... CLICK HERE for a link to Getting Started with Session Drummer 3...
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ivanSC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 03:58:28
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But there again I down graded fro PE to SE this time around. I already had plugs that did everything I needed to do and didnt like SD2 in any case. The extra synths that I dont already have from my previous PE versions were nothing i am ever likely to use, so even at $99 it was an easy decision for me to just ay no, but as you guys always say, YMMV. Mind you, the matrix view looks interesting but I have had the equivalent on my lowly Commodore Amiga 1200 for years! (grin)
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ivanSC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 04:00:39
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papa2005 ChuckC Alright.... I'm going with PE, Looks too damn cool not to. Thanks fellas! I don't think you'll regret it. Another "plus" is the additional discounts you'll receive on future upgrades by being a registered user of PE... Not sure I follow you rlogic here. If you are paying more for PE and its upgrades in the first place, you are merely getting a bigger numerical discount, but it works out to the same percentage as on SE. Unless you are aware of some secret about to be unleashed upon us which will once again advantage the better-heeled among us.... (grin)
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papa2005
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 04:02:54
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You're probably correct, ivan...*LOL* Should have something along the lines of "should your wish to purchase future upgrades to PE you cost will be lower." *LOL*
Regards, Papa CLICK HERE for a link to support for SONAR 8.5 CLICK HERE to view a list of video tutorials... CLICK HERE for a link to Getting Started with Session Drummer 3...
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Wood67
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 04:30:41
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I was in a similar boat to Leapinlizard in that I had Studio 8.5 for a while. I only upgraded to PE with the $99 deal. The big wins for me was DimPro, which is impressive, Matrix (which looks good but I've yet to play with it properly), and the additional perc/vox strip and VC64. I also use EZDrummer. SD3 is ok-ish but doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility. Strangely I also don't like the PerfectSpace reverb unit either. Don't know why, but it seems to create very artificial sounding tails which runs counter to what you'd expect.
post edited by Wood67 - 2010/02/24 04:33:46
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ivanSC
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 05:49:57
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papa2005 You're probably correct, ivan...*LOL* Should have something along the lines of "should your wish to purchase future upgrades to PE you cost will be lower." *LOL* Took my smartass pills this morning, didn`t I? Oh, and PS I am still using the lexicon Pantheon I got with PE 3 or 4 as a basic reverb, plus I still have Roland Virtual Soundcanvas from 5 AND the dreaded TT1, both of which get an occasional airing.... Me? a Luddite? Non-Brits - google it.
post edited by ivanSC - 2010/02/24 05:52:31
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 10:35:46
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Hi, i bought Sonar 8.5 Studio a few weeks ago, really like it and it has done a good job on recording guitar/vocals and so on, but i really miss some good vst-instrument sounds. Now i don't know whether i should upgrade or buy another vst-instrument. I'm from Germany and there is an offer of the IK Multimedia Total Workstation 2 Instruments Bundle for 269€, which i consider to buy. Or should i do the Update for Sonar Producer Edition which would cost me 199€ ? I really don't need (artificial) synthesizer sounds, i more like natural sounds, strings, piano, brass...what i'd really need would be some good rhodes sound too and some hammond. Perhaps you can help me with this decision. On the internet i couldn't find much information about the sounds that would come with the producer upgrade. The IK Multimedia Bundle seems to be a good alternative to me at the moment. Or could you recommend? P.S.: Some of you wrote that there would be an upgrade vom Studio to Producer for 99$...i haven't found that offer yet!
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Wood67
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 10:48:21
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Well - with PE you get DimPro which has significantly better patches than the LE version you get with SE - including a bunhc of electric piano/rhodes patches. Also, PE comes with True Pianos which is a dedicated piano sampler. It only has a single grand piano but there are a number of adjustments you can make to the tone that provide a reasonable level of control. I've been very impressed with this in the short time I've used it. For me, those two were worth the upgrade. re. the upgrade offer. Check the website - you might qualify for the cheaper upgrade. But I don't know what criteria they were using. There were no special controls when I bought it, it was just a case of finding the right option.
post edited by Wood67 - 2010/02/24 10:50:03
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leapinlizard
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 11:12:21
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RuedigerS: That's a tough call. I would say if you can get Producer for $99, that would get you Rapture and Dim Pro, which you could supplement with IK's Sonik Synth (or something similar) for $99 ( www.esoundz.com) and give you some awesome soft synth power. On the other hand, if you have to pay full price for the Producer upgrade, your synth choices will be slightly limited, but you'll have all the other features that Producer offers, and you could add soft synths down the road as you get rich selling your music ;-}. You might also consider Digital Sound Factory's mega collection for Dimension, which runs under LE and Pro, and was $29 the last time I looked ( www.digitalsoundfactory.com). So many options, so little money ...
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Re:is 8.5 studio enough? or would producer be better for me?
2010/02/24 11:19:58
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