Cant write file disc may be full

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2010/03/05 04:49:31 (permalink)

Cant write file disc may be full

Please Help my. I Have problem with message in sonar 8.5 ,,Can not  write file, disc may be full,,   

System - Windows 7 64bit  
PC - Core i5 750, 4G, Disc samsunf F1 320GB - 200GB is empty  
Interface - Konnekt 8   
post edited by Tracy Donowan - 2010/03/05 04:53:32
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    Wood67
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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 05:42:41 (permalink)
    Is your physical drive partitioned? If so maybe you're trying to install to a partition that doesn't have any space left.  Also check that you're not trying to save to a different physical drive by accident.

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 10:46:10 (permalink)
    Are you reccording your audio to a seperate hard drive? You should be. you should have a drive for programs (C/ program drives) with sonar on it and a drive for audio only (D/Audio drive).

    Also how much free space do you have left on your drive?
    Also do a defrag with a program other than the windws one or use the windows defrag a couple of times.
    Also do a system clean up
    Then reboot/restart
    Cj
    Edit: Theres also an aud.ini setting you can increase. Its called something like Bouncebuffdisksize or something close to that. Raise it to 25 or 30
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    post edited by CJaysMusic - 2010/03/05 10:47:37

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 11:14:20 (permalink)
    Also locate your picture cache folder and delete it's contents.
    Everything you have ever recorded, whether you keep the track or not, saves a wave form to this folder. 
    Don't delete the folder, just the contents. Sonar will redraw the waveforms that are needed when each project is opened. 
    Doing this will harm nothing. I do it like once a month just to keep things neat and tidy.

    There is also a setting I believe in the aud.ini file to increase the picture cache folder size but don't remember what it's called at the moment. 
    Maybe someone here can supply that info and what to raise it to.
     
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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 14:35:56 (permalink)
    it's stored on the AUD.INI file

    you can increase the picture cache there
    it's look like this:
    PicCacheMB=
     you can set it to 350mb or so..



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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 15:24:40 (permalink)
    So are you saying that if Sonar exceeds the setting for the picture cache, it will issue the error message cited by the OP?
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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 16:53:51 (permalink)
    i cant tell for shure that the (Cant write file disc may be full)is directly related the picture cache folders
    but i'v mine set up to 500mb,( i & also clean it up time to time)& never get this error..

    500mb is a bit much,350 could be plenty enought.but i think it's a goog thing to clean it time to time.
    + also defrag the harddrive



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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 18:57:26 (permalink)
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    So are you saying that if Sonar exceeds the setting for the picture cache, it will issue the error message cited by the OP?

    It could be.
    I used to get that warning quite a bit. Then someone from Cakewalk suggested I do this. 
    That was on Sonar 6PE and I haven't had that message since. 
    I believe they finally put the aud.ini in version 8 so there was a way to cut back on the warnings.


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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2010/03/05 19:06:06 (permalink)
    The "can't write" error should not be related to the picture cache unless the drive that the cache is on is too full to provide the configured cache size. SONAR recycles the cache space as needed, so even if you fill it up you don't usually run out of space.

    (However, I don't know what happens if you specify a very small cache size that cannot accommodate the current project. Presumably, SONAR would ignore the configured cache size rather than crash your project!)

    More often, this error means that there was some problem while writing to disk, and "might be full" is just the program's best guess as to why that might be. Unfortunately, that's not the only condition that could raise an error when writing data. Just the first one you'd want to eliminate.

    For performance, SONAR allocates bigger chunks of disk space than is needed for the actual data, so it's possible to get a disk-full condition even when it looks like there should be some disk space to spare. A possibly related setting is the RecordPreAllocSeconds variable, which specifies how much disk space (in seconds of audio) to pre-allocate before starting to record audio. Setting this to a high value could cause you to run out of disk space prematurely.

    Also, the disk that's full may not be the disk you're writing audio data to. It could be the drive that contains your paging file, usually drive c:. This can occur if you've set your virtual memory to a fixed size and told Windows not to adjust it - something often done as a performance tweak. So make sure you have some free space on all your drives, not just your audio disk.

    Considering that the "disk full" interpretation of the error handler may be bogus, you have to look at all the many other problems that could cause a write error. A faulty disk drive or intermittent cable. A RAM problem. Windows permission issues. Spyware infection (rootkits). Background virus scanners. Make sure you can read, write, edit and delete other types of files in the target audio folder.

    Some users have cleared up apparently-bogus disk-full errors by increasing the disk buffer sizes. If your disk were badly fragmented, I suppose this could help, but other than that I don't have a theory as to how or why that would help. I just mention it because I've heard that here before.

    Others have had success by deleting aud.ini. This will reset everything to default values, just in case the problem is the result of some setting you changed such as the disk parameters (e.g. RecordPreAllocSeconds, EnableCacheWriteThru, DiskRecBufSize, etc.).

    These are just some random thoughts on the subject that popped out of my head. Maybe none of them address your problem, or maybe one will trigger an ah-ha insight.


    Afterthought: I was trying to imagine a scenario under which the picture cache could have anything to do with disk-write errors. I came up with just one: if one of the picture files was corrupt, or there was a badspot on disk where the pictures are stored, deleting them could clear up the problem. At least temporarily. I'm stretching here.
    post edited by bitflipper - 2010/03/05 19:08:48


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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2012/04/21 17:23:15 (permalink)
    GAH!  Just got this in the middle of a project ... and of COURSE I'm almost finished.  Like, literally had three more edits to make or so.

    HELP!  No, CJ, I do not have a partitioned Music D;/ drive.  And yes, I should. 

    Can't clean-up and de-frag without loosing everthing I've done since my last save - which, incidently, wasn't TOO long ago - like less than 30 minutes - but I'm afraid that I might lose the whole project?  Or am I just being silly?

    I see NO Pic/picture/photo cache - although I did find a very small iPhone photo cache.  Not what I was looking for.

    Finally found my AUD.ini file in the program folder and here's what it states, if'n that makes any difference.  CAN I DELETE IT for the reset idea WHILE LEAVING X1 OPEN?
    ******************************************
    [Aud]
    DataDir=C:\Cakewalk Projects\Audio Data
    PictureDir=C:\Cakewalk Projects\Picture Cache
    PicCacheMB=500
    PicCacheZoom=128
    PicCacheLevels=2
    EnablePicCacheThreads=1
    ComputePicturesWhilePlaying=1
    CopyOnImport=1
    ReadCache=0
    WriteCache=0
    EnableCacheWriteThru=1
    VolMethod=1
    PanMethod=1
    DiskBufSize=256
    DiskRecBufSize=256
    ExtraDiskBuffers=2
    DitherAlgorithm=0
    ZeroFillMethod=2
    RecordPreAllocSeconds=0
    ZeroFillDB=300
    FlushWriteBeforeRead=0
    FlushMultiple=1
    DefaultEqPosition=0
    DefaultAudSnapOfflineStretchMethod=3
    DefaultAudSnapOnlineStretchMethod=1
    RadiusStretchingPitchCoherence=50
    RadiusStretchingPhaseCoherence=50
    RealtimePreroll=0
    SuspendPluginsOnBounce=1
    [Wave]
    DefaultSampleRate=44100
    DriverID=0
    WaveInID=0
    OpenInputFirst=0
    SmpteMode=1
    TimingOffsetMsec=0.000000
    TimingOffsetBuffers=0
    LatencyMsec=5
    BounceBufSizeMsec=5
    FlushOnStop=1
    ThreadSchedulingModel=1
    EnableMixThreads=1
    MixThreadCount=0
    EnableSetThreadIdealProcessor=1
    CSUseSpin=1
    AllowOfflineRenderMixThreads=1
    UseMMCSS=1

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2012/04/21 18:26:36 (permalink)
    Here is a workaround I posted on another thread.

    "I've seen that error message a few times. A reboot always took care of it. One time, after getting that error message, I wanted to see if I could export an audio track as a wave file and was able to do that with no problems. Then I tried to save the project and it saved normally. The next time I got the "Can't Write File - Disk May Be Full" error message, the first thing I did was export an audio track as a wave file. Again, I was able to save the project normally. I don't get that error message often but now when I do get it I just export an audio track as a wave file and continue to march. I don't know if this will work for others because there may be different causes involved, but it works for me."

    The thread I copied that from can be found at:

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2021392&mpage=1#2409484

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2012/04/21 19:00:02 (permalink)
    EXCELLENT!  Thanks, Chappel! I'll give it a go....

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2012/04/21 19:16:08 (permalink)
    So far so good, Chappel!  THANKS!

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    Re:Cant write file disc may be full 2012/04/21 19:23:42 (permalink)
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    So far so good, Chappel!  THANKS!

    I'm glad that seems to be working for you. I have NO idea why it works but it hasn't failed me yet (though I don't do anything musically anymore). Now get back to making that sweet music we all love! 
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