What do you think of this interface?

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2010/03/09 13:34:30 (permalink)

What do you think of this interface?

I am looking to buy a new audio interface and saw this one,
 
http://www.samash.com/p/R16%20Recorder%20Interface%20Control%20Surface_-49954783
 
it has 8 xlr inputs and 2 outputs, can be used with or without a computer...
i know zoom priducts can be quite cheesy sounding but does anyone have any experience with it or any of the othe zoom recording hardware?
 
or if anyone knows of an interface for around the same price with as many mic inputs as this one, let me know.
thank you!

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 13:40:33 (permalink)
    that's meant to be a standalone unit, that would be overkill for an interface for sonar, IMO.

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 13:57:48 (permalink)
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    I am looking to buy a new audio interface and saw this one,
     
    http://www.samash.com/p/R16%20Recorder%20Interface%20Control%20Surface_-49954783
     
    it has 8 xlr inputs and 2 outputs, can be used with or without a computer...
    i know zoom priducts can be quite cheesy sounding but does anyone have any experience with it or any of the othe zoom recording hardware?
     
    or if anyone knows of an interface for around the same price with as many mic inputs as this one, let me know.
    thank you!


    As an interface for Sonar I would be worried about driver support, Zoom is not one of the know good vendors for driver support in Windows.  It comes with Cubase LE and I'll be it barley works with that.
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 13:59:43 (permalink)
    i think is actually kinda cheap, i found a video, and it says it can record at most 44.1/16 bit... and for a little more i can get something better... i just liked the whole console deal...

    what would be a good interface to use, that has 8+ inputs?  i was thinking also of the ua-101... because im looking to do a live take of my band, 4 drum mics, 2 guitars and a bass...
    thanks

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 15:17:28 (permalink)
    or if anyone knows of an interface for around the same price with as many mic inputs as this one, let me know. thank you!

     
    It's a USB unit...
    I'd opt for one of the Edirol USB units... or if you have the funds... the RME Fireface UC (which is the only USB audio interface that offers the round-trip latency on par with the best PCI/e units).
     
    IMO, Edirol (Roland) makes the best low-cost USB audio interfaces.
     
    FWIW, I'd choose an audio interface that's a proven rock-solid performer.

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 15:35:08 (permalink)
    Someone posted a thread about problems with the R16.  (Couldn't find it with search ...)  Big problems with latency and driver stability.  Google this device and you'll find other people struggling to make it work.

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 15:54:43 (permalink)
    Any "blowout" pricing at big box music stores raises red flags for me. 

    There is saftey in numbers.  If you don't see a lot of people in the forum using a product there is usually a good reason why.

    I agree with Jim about the Edirol product line.  Jim knows his stuff.  I bought my Frontier Dakota card from him many, many years ago and (unfortunately for him) it's still a rock solid unit with great drivers and I haven't needed to upgrade it.

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/09 16:47:15 (permalink)
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    i think is actually kinda cheap, i found a video, and it says it can record at most 44.1/16 bit... and for a little more i can get something better... i just liked the whole console deal...

    what would be a good interface to use, that has 8+ inputs?  i was thinking also of the ua-101... because im looking to do a live take of my band, 4 drum mics, 2 guitars and a bass...
    thanks


    The old standby is the M-Audio Delta 1010. It's old as the hills but still have good driver support and fairly good sound.  However, it's line in only so you will need mic preamps if you don't have some.  They also have one with preamps if you want an all in one deivce (cuts down on patch cables). Here is a link

    http://www.m-audio.com/pr.../FastTrackUltra8R.html
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/10 04:01:17 (permalink)
    if i had the money id definately go for the rme on jim said... but i dont have 1400 bucks...
    im actually thinking about the ua-101... its got 10 actuall inputs... as opposed to 2 inputs, 1 stereo pair etc etc... i could record my band with that right? 
    and im gonna build a desktop here soon and didnt know anything about the soundcards you can actually install in a computer or if they were better or worse than external audio cards...
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/10 08:19:18 (permalink)
    the UA-101 actually only has 8 analog inputs, not 10.  the other 2 inputs are digital.

    still a good looking device - just didn't want you to think you get 10 analog inputs, tho.

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/13 14:16:29 (permalink)
    the 6 1/4 inputs on the back of the ua-101, can i plug in dynamic microphones into them? or will i still need preamps for them?
    thanks

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/13 15:18:08 (permalink)
    only inputs 1 & 2 have mic pres, the other inputs are LINE input, so you'd need a preamp for those inputs.

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/13 15:25:50 (permalink)
    what are some good mic preamps? that arent really expensive, i saw a pr8 8 channel preamp at sam ash for $180...
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/14 21:52:30 (permalink)
    Well you say you are going to build a desktop setup. I dont know if you have a laptop setup now, but I will suggest a PCI setup instead of usb, using an Echo Layla3g
    www.echoaudio.com

    It is definitely a great product with reability, good company support, and seems to have the requirements you seek.

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/14 22:16:23 (permalink)
    do the 6 inputs in the back have preamps?  or would i need to get external preamps?
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/14 22:31:03 (permalink)
    do the 6 inputs in the back have preamps? or would i need to get external preamps? thanks

     
    If you're going to build a machine... and you need a good audio interface with 8 analog inputs (each with mic preamp), then the MOTU 8-Pre (~$550) would be perfect.  Just make sure you're using a good TI chipset Firewire controller.

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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/15 11:07:53 (permalink)
    I was just going to add for Mod Bod's sake, that R16 has always been $399 everywhere since it first came out. That "Blowout Pricing" is that ol' fake marketing thing businesses do to make it look like a screaming deal. That unit has never cost more than $399 anywhere.

    My ZOOM G2.1u works as an audio interface but as mentioned the ZOOM drivers pale in comparison to say my Echo drivers, so with the ZOOM stuff I have about double the latency.

    I'd really like to see a unit like this though work. It's a great idea to combine all those functions.....portable recorder, control surface, and audio interface.
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/16 13:58:36 (permalink)
    i was actually considering to buy it anyways, but then i saw it in person... its made of plastic and it looks like its built rally cheap... the faders ar really wiggly and stuff... and there wasnt a stereo out that i could use to plug it into my monitors, im actually liking the MOTU interface, i looked for a TI firewire card but it seems liketheyre not made anymore?  where can i find one new for sale?
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    Re: What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/16 16:19:18 (permalink)
    i looked for a TI firewire card but it seems liketheyre not made anymore? where can i find one new for sale?

     
    FWIW, You can find TI chipset Firewire controllers online or locally (if you have a computer super-store nearby).  ie:  Our local Microcenter has both PCI and PCIe TI chipset Firewire controllers in stock.  Look for Firewire controllers... then look on the PCB for a (smaller) chip that has the TI logo.  Some will even specifically mention TI (Texas Instruments) on the package.

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/23 14:47:13 (permalink)
    i also came accross this interface, its a Tascam, i havent seen much of them but comparing prices theyre always cheaper for the amount of inputs...  is Tascam a good quality item?
     
    http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/-US800-USB-AudioMIDI-Interface?sku=485396
     
    it hasnt come out yet, but for the price, its pretty amazing...
    6 mic preamps, 8 total inputs...
     
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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/23 15:22:02 (permalink)
    If low round-trip latency is important to you... run the other direction. 
    The other Tascam USB units only go down to a 128-sample ASIO buffer size.
    I'd expect this to be similar.
     
    FWIW, If you want a trouble-free DAW, choose a proven rock-solid performer for your audio interface.
    Going with a cheap unproven unit is literally rolling the dice.

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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/23 15:47:08 (permalink)
    Forget about latency, just RUN as fast as you can from anything Tascam.  Just do a search on this forum for Tascam FW-1884 and you'll get your answer.

     
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    Re:What do you think of this interface? 2010/03/23 20:11:08 (permalink)
    If you are just doing overdubs w/ occational band recordings, you could get one of the cheaper 2 or 4 i/o units w/ ADAT.  I've heard good things about the behringer 8x ADAT w/ preamps which would give you 10 inputs.

    The new TC Impact Twin has 2 preamps, 2 lines, ADAT and SPidf.  I know some had problems w/ the previous TC drivers but the latest have sorted most of that out.  It is FW, but if you are building a new computer that should work for a good while.

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