Great Drums like this. Pointers please?

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2010/03/11 13:35:30 (permalink)

Great Drums like this. Pointers please?

Hey All,

http://www.youtube.com/wa...H4&feature=related

From 02:13 onwards.

Im seriously liking this old drum sound. I realise its velocity and kit and rooms. Tis mighty big!

Ideas on recreating something similar....

Good things to all

Jedi

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    Chinchen
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    Re:Great Drums like this. Pointers please? 2010/03/11 13:52:59 (permalink)
    Taj Mahal verb. Crank it.    
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    Re:Great Drums like this. Pointers please? 2010/03/11 14:07:02 (permalink)
    Its more than just the verb though i think. I've just realised that there is always a Tamb with the snare in these kind of tracks adding air, the crashes on the longer version I have here are being gated to allow them to be whalloped without bleeding over for many ticks. I've just realised and had a lightbulb moment that almost every "Hit" record I'm listening to has hats panned hard right.

    Theres some sweet powerful Toms going on.

    Every CD I have has great drums. Mine are terrible and I'm still learning but, I mean "Big Drums" can't be so hard.

    I'm increasingly of the opinion that every hit record I have heard isn't in fact a drum kit. It's a construction of drum sounds that give the listener a "faux" presentation of an imaginary kit but are in fact a construct of disperate sounds. (If that make sense!). Not just 1 kit, laid out before a drum god.

    Cheers

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    Re:Great Drums like this. Pointers please? 2010/03/11 14:19:48 (permalink)
    1:  That big 'ol reverb on the snare has a fairly long pre-delay on it.

    2:  Note the shimmer and "smear" on the HH and cymbals.  That's coming from distant room mics - crushed with a compressor - blended back in on top of the track to taste.  This too will sound like a decent reverb with a big pre-delay on it.

    Just two of the many things you can work on to get close.

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    Re:Great Drums like this. Pointers please? 2010/03/11 14:47:37 (permalink)
    I read a description somewhere about the Bonham drum sound and how it was done. No mystery, it turns out, just really big drums (26" kick) hit really hard in a big room with distant mics.

    The song sited by the OP was recorded in 1993, at the tail end of the big-snare era usually associated with the 1980's. That effect is achieved with reverb, probably a high-end Lexicon. And lots of it, but gated so that it stops just short of the next hit. There is also a pre-delay so that the initial hit isn't obscured by the reverb.

    I think they've also dialed up some 200Hz boost to give it a deeper tone. Use the biggest (e.g. 14-14.5") and deepest (6.5-7") snare your drum sampler offers. It's one thing that's missing from the stock Superior Drummer set that I use, so I'll often bring in the 14x7 Rockstar snare from Jamstix as a replacement when that big sound is what I'm after.




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