teaquack
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Noise in Output
I just started using Sonar 8, going through the tutorial... The tutorial says to insert Cakewalk TSS-1 as output. When I play the tutorial there's noise/distortion in the track, same noise is heard on playback when I record or play from keyboard. However, when track is exported and played on Winamp, it sounds fine. 
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 07:50:15
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You might consider posting your system specs. It will help someone come up with a suggestion for help.
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teaquack
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 14:44:55
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I'm kinda of a noob on this, I'm not sure what information will be helpful... I have Windows XP service pack 3 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ 2.40 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM Sound card: Realtek HD Audio output Here's a file of what it sounds like. Sorry I didn't convert it to mp3, plus the sound is really low... but you can hear the clicks if you turn up the volume to maximum)) http://www.mediafire.com/?11mjmmmm4m4
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 15:01:37
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winamp is not sonar you can't really compare the outputs of the two.
the problem is likely your soundcard and its drivers. you can try changing your buffers to higher latency (and thus more stable and less static/stuttering sounds). go to OPTIONS>AUDIO and move the latency slider to the SAFE side, then click APPLY and OK.
this will cause higher latency, but more stable useage of the CPU. if you want low latency AND stable CPU, then you'll need a recording soundcard with proper recording drivers. see my website for some recommendations.
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teaquack
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 15:24:07
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Beagle, thanks to the help. I moved the latency slider to safe side and it did reduce noise. There are still few clicks during playback, but it's much better. Why would I need lower latency, what does it do?
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Beagle
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 15:40:17
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if you use a keyboard to play softsynths in real time while you record or if you try to record audio using FX in the audio track's FX bin in real time while recording, then you will experience latency which is a delay between the time you hit a key on the keyboard or strum your guitar and the time you hear it.
if you're still having noise even on the SAFE side, then you can eliminate that with a recording soundcard even if you don't need low latency.
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 15:51:57
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teaquack
Why would I need lower latency, what does it do?
If you plan on using softsynths (which you probably are) then you will notice a delay from the time you play a note on your midi keyboard to when you actually hear the sound. You'll need to get your latency down to at least a minimum 5.8ms (256 samples) so the delay is all but unnoticable. You really should consider a real soundcard / audio interface. Using the built-in Realtek with Sonar is not the way to go. It's kinda like buying a Ferrari and never taking it out of first gear.
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teaquack
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/03/30 16:25:15
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Then i probably don't need low latency, because I have a huge delay when it was the middle. I just turn the softsynth output off while recording (so I can still hear the metronome).
I will buy better sound card, but can still get to know the software for now while I can't buy it.
Thanks for response! Very helpful.
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teaquack
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/04/01 21:17:38
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I fixed the problem, now everything sounds great. Turns out it wasn't latency. In Options->Audio...->Advanced tab, under Driver Mode, I changed it to MME (32-Bit). It was on WDM/KS before.
I guess I don't need to change audio card after all.
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/04/01 23:23:23
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MME is just fine to get started... you'll want a more efficient driver/hardware combo if you start doing demanding things.
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Re:Noise in Output
2010/04/02 08:34:22
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teaquack.... glad you got it going. the latency issue will emerge when you start to load up a synth or two and a couple of FX......and try to play it in real time in a project. I know very few people who can use a factory (realteck) card for recording anything but small audio projects of a few tracks.
Go visit Beagle's web site and look at the interfaces. Almost Everyone here (95%) that records using Cake is using some sort of upgraded sound card that is designed for audio and midi recording. It is OK to use what you have, but as you learn more and start to really use Cake to it's fullest capacity, the sound card's weaker aspects will start to show rather quickly.
In the mean time, learn the platform, learn about synths and have fun.
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