WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR

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2010/04/25 13:02:22 (permalink)

WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR

When working in bigger studios with protools You can set your master buss as 2 mono busses. You can route 1 track to those 2 mono busses. This allows for "True" Stereo imaging. In Sonar you can only route a track to 1 master buss which is stereo.  This completely reduces the amount of sterEo width that one could achieve by using a 2 buss master.
 
AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? HOW COULD SONAR OVERLOOK SUCH A VITAL METHOD OF PROFESSIONAL ROUTING?
 
Maybe i am just not aware of how to set mixer up.  Please do not say that you can achieve the same amount of width in a stereo mix with 1 master stereo buss. Our campany has done exstensive testing between programs and measured the width with a Analog Paz analyzer and ocilliscope. The difference is over welming.
 
Even programs like Samplitude are set up with a master buss that has two MONO OUTPUTS allowing you to pan both the left and right channle seperatly. Cakewalk only allows you to pan the entire buss left or right
In fact IF YOU MEASURE THE WIDTH IN SONAR OF A SIGNAL PANNED HARD LEFT OR HARD RIGHT ONE CAN ONLY ACHIEVE SLIGHTLY OVER -20 IN ANTI PHASE METER.  I need width that can accuratly reach 0db in this area for maximum profession stereo imaging of complete mixes
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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/25 14:07:02 (permalink)
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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/26 07:18:09 (permalink)
    See the Sonar Producer Forum for an interesting response to this cross poster!


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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/26 11:12:42 (permalink)
    Put in a feature request - it seems like a good idea tho I have no use for it now.  Then stick w/ samplitude or Pro Tools for your professional mixes until Cake fixes your problem.

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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/26 23:30:24 (permalink)
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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/27 02:55:04 (permalink)
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    Re:WHY CAN YOU NOT MAKE A 2 BUSS MASTER IN SONAR 2010/04/27 12:10:26 (permalink)
    rhymestars
     
    AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? HOW COULD SONAR OVERLOOK SUCH A VITAL METHOD OF PROFESSIONAL ROUTING? 
     
    You may be. But even if you aren't it seems to me with your self proclaimed professional abilities you would have figured out if Sonar could achieve you mixing preference.
     
    Also seems to me that if/when you realized Sonar couldn't you would have posted that you put in a request and posted audio examples and other info supporting the audible difference, and asked if there was a workaround. Now that would have been cool...we all may have learned something.
     
    Your "chicken little and the sky is falling" approach sure is strange. That may be the only thing I learn from this and if so, thanks for nothing rhymestars.
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