FX Busses?

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2010/04/30 19:33:47 (permalink)

FX Busses?

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I want to have a reverb bus to eliminate multiple reverb plugins.  The way I have my busses now are set up by instrument groups (bass, guitars, synths, etc...)   Now let's say I want to add some reverb to some synths and not others?   Does that mean now I have to route some of the synths over to the newly created reverb bus?  because then there goes goodbye to my nice orginazation by instrument groups.   Is there a solution I am not thinking of?

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/04/30 20:06:47 (permalink)
    Now let's say I want to add some reverb to some synths and not others? Does that mean now I have to route some of the synths over to the newly created reverb bus? because then there goes goodbye to my nice orginazation by instrument groups

    Yes, you need to route the ones you want effected to a new bus. It will still be organized. Its just that some will go to another bus. Its no biggie.
    If you want some to have reverb and some to not have reverb, that is whats needed if you only want to use one reverb. If you want to use multiple verbs,then you can just place them on the individual tracks to keep your neatness. But adding one more bus isnt going to disorganize your tracks.
     
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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/04/30 20:24:08 (permalink)
    Thanks CJ.  I meant the orginization in my busses.  If I have 4 synth parts and only 2 of them need the same reverb, they will no longer go to my "SYNTH BUS" but rather to my "REVERB BUS"... which is going to annoy me.... but maybe i just need to get over it :)

    thanks again!
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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/04/30 20:56:12 (permalink)
    That's mixing for ya.
    You know you can route the 2 synths to the reverb bus first, then place a send on the reverb bus that goes to your main synth bus and all will be on one bus again.. huh!!! Oh Yeaa..  You can thank me later
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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/04/30 22:33:08 (permalink)
    You can still route all of the synths to the same bus.

    Use a second bus, with a reverb set to 100% wet, output through the synth bus.

    Use a send on any of the synths that you want reverb.

    You can use the fader on the reverb bus to control you wet/dry mix in the synth bux. THEN, once it's all set up, you can still control all of your synths AND your reverb simply by using the fader on the synth bus.

    Similar setup as what CJ mentions, but gives you instant access to your wet/dry mix with the reverb bus fader.

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/04/30 22:58:18 (permalink)
    or just insert a send in the synth tracks for the reverb bus and add reverb amount at the track

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/06 15:50:46 (permalink)
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    or just insert a send in the synth tracks for the reverb bus and add reverb amount at the track

    +1
    I might send half a dozen guitar tracks to the same bus to group them, and slap a reverb on the bus, but I don't actually have to dial  the reverb up on each track

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/06 15:57:35 (permalink)
    If I want 2 guitars to have reverb, I will set up a guitar buss and pop in the reverb. But lets say I add a third guitar that I want to have a different color of reverb, I will simply add the reverb into that guitar;s channel FX bin and route it to the master directly.  Most of the Cakewalk FX are fairly light on the resources so it's not a big issue.

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/06 22:31:54 (permalink)
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    Hello,

    I want to have a reverb bus to eliminate multiple reverb plugins.  The way I have my busses now are set up by instrument groups (bass, guitars, synths, etc...)   Now let's say I want to add some reverb to some synths and not others?   Does that mean now I have to route some of the synths over to the newly created reverb bus?  because then there goes goodbye to my nice orginazation by instrument groups.   Is there a solution I am not thinking of?

    Thank You,
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    A reverb effects is not a "group" type buss. It's "in addition to" the dry channel(s).  You send a "copy" of the dry signal of each channel via it's aux to that buss.  Now, because you are blending that back into the mix you don't want any of that dry signal to leak through, you only want the reverb created from that dry signal. So set your buss reverb  plugin mix control to 100% effect (all wet).  That's exactly how it's done with a real analog hardware mixer.
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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/07 05:34:00 (permalink)
    Like ohhey said, when you set up an Fx send on a track, the send is a COPY of the track and flows to whatever bus you've directed it to.

    This is in addition to wherever the track itself is routed at the bottom - i.e. your nicely set up instrument groups.

    You control how much Fx you want on a given track by it's dedicated "send amount" control.

    This way you can blend differing amounts of the same Effect to multiple tracks.

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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/07 17:33:21 (permalink)
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    A reverb effects is not a "group" type buss.
     
     
    Well it's not necessarily a group type buss. But, once I have the verb dialed in for each track the way I want it, and the volume levels established relative to one another, I can still control the overall volume of the group with that same buss rather than tweak each track volume individually. Perhaps that technique springs from my ignorance, but it works for me



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    Re:FX Busses? 2010/05/07 18:37:56 (permalink)
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    ohhey


    A reverb effects is not a "group" type buss.
     
     
    Well it's not necessarily a group type buss. But, once I have the verb dialed in for each track the way I want it, and the volume levels established relative to one another, I can still control the overall volume of the group with that same buss rather than tweak each track volume individually. Perhaps that technique springs from my ignorance, but it works for me



    I guess I was thinking group as in sub mix where channels are only going to that bus and not also going to the main bus. In the Aux send to reverb bus situation the channels are still gonig to the main bus. The reverb bus is blended "in addition to" not instead of the channels.
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