Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin)

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2010/06/04 17:59:20 (permalink)

Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin)

I did a search trying to find info on how to do this but, yikes, the number of hits.... I looked at several threads but they didn't provide the answer I need.

What I want to do is place a reverb tail (or a repeating reverb) on the last word of each verse of a song. The only example I can think of is the word "Play-play-play" in the song Green Tambourine. Wish I could use a better example.

I have the usual suspects for reverb: Sonitus, Lexicon, Perfect Space.

Any ideas how to do this? I've tried and can't seem to find the right effect or setting.

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 18:25:48 (permalink)
    The feature you're looking for is called "Decay Time" (or sometimes just "Decay"....

    THe Sonitus FX Reverb has it...Most decent reverb units have it...

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 18:58:25 (permalink)
    Thanks, Papa!

    I'll give that a try.

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 19:36:37 (permalink)
    Are you talking about an echo?  That's what it sounds like.  Buy an echoplex, or use the Sonitus delay unit.  You can automate it so it only catches the last word and repeats, or make a new track of echos and cut it up (maybe, if you get a clean repeat of the word).

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 20:56:31 (permalink)
    What I want to do is place a reverb tail (or a repeating reverb) on the last word of each verse of a song.

    Easiest way: put the reverb (or delay) on a bus and automate its volume.

    If you want repeating reverb, put an instance of the Sonitus Delay in front of it (100% wet). The combination of delay followed by reverb can give extremely long and lush decays as well as other interesting effects (how about ping-pong reverb?).

    The bus volume envelope determines when the effect comes in, e.g. on the last word in a phrase.


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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 21:12:14 (permalink)
    Thanks for the tips. I guess I am talking about a repeating echo not reverb.

    bit, re: "automate it's volume". Automation is something I need to review. Any quick tips on how to do that?

    There are so many options, tips, techniques that I'm not sure one can know all of them.

    I read the forum everyday picking up tips yet I see stuff that are foreign to me and, yes, I read the book.

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/04 23:56:05 (permalink)
    Mook,

    enable automation and find the volume control.  It will appear as an envelope on the track.  It is pretty easy.

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/05 00:11:48 (permalink)
    Thanks MrMook for chiming. Ooops, AT beat me to you and stole my super-thunder:

    Right click the reverb track and select the envelope you want to use (depending on how you're doing your reverb) ... that is automation (or *enveloping*, if you will), IIRC.

    Many of us are *wisely* doing the following scenario (or something similar!):

    Two (2) 100% wet reverb send-busses, ie:

    1) A moody Lexicon plate reverb with 50ms delay ... (a must for snare drums and lead vox)

    2) Smoother/ambient PerfectSpace or Sonitus reverb (for a convincing soundstage for most other instruments/tracks)

    You may do automation using the 'reverb-send-volume' ... do it on each track you wish (as per advice above) ... that is how I always do it in my crowded mixes (preferring to leave all buss automation/enveloping alone).

    Hope this helps.
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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/05 10:19:40 (permalink)
    You can also do a repeat manually by simply recording the repeating word into a different track at the correct place..... or using the magic of digital copy and paste..... then envelope the volume on that "echo" track.

    I know...I'm so old school.....


    EDIT: this might be a different subject... I saw "long reverb tail" and thought this might fit.... I had a song that for some reason the reverb tail was chopped and it sounded unnatural...at the end of a song. Worst place to have a chopped tail.  I needed a fix and recording it again was not possible.... so..... I zoomed in...... copied the part of the tail that was there, and pasted/spliced together several clips to lengthen the tail past the point I wanted it to fade to black. I went into each clip and used the "reduce gain" until the beginning of the clip was in line visually with the ending level of the clip before it. It was tedious work but when it played back, I had a smooth, artificially lengthened, reverb tail that sounded original and worked perfectly.
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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/05 11:37:19 (permalink)
    sometime if I just want reverb to extend past the end of the clip, I would make sure I bounce to clips and then extend the clip to where I want the reverb to stop, by pull the end of the clip , to the end point I want. thats one way of many ways.. also the right plugin Effectrix works awesome, where you choose the length ..sending to bus as mentioned works awesome. they so many ways to achieve what you wanna do. 

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/10 01:47:49 (permalink)
    Get LOOMER's "Resounder" Plugin.
    It's great for that.
     
     

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    Re:Long Reverb Tail (How to or which plugin) 2010/06/10 10:35:08 (permalink)
    I would use a digital delay for that task or a UAD Roland Echo, timed with the tempo of the song. Set it for the desired results, 3 repeats and manually clip any additional repeats. Then I would automate a fade to drop the volume as it played.
     
    Ok, found the lemonpipers track for Green Tambourine. It was actually 9 repeats ( I counted them) So just a digital delay, no clipping with a fade off the end is all that is required. It is NOT a reverb effect.
     
    By the way, the original definitely sounds like an Echoplex at work. There is actually tape speed up and pitch variance on the original.
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