D K
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Need to borrow your ears..
I have been listening to this band for the last month or so... I am just enamored with how wet and still clear this entire record is... Not being a fan of the overly dry and upfront sound that seems so popular - this recording is really a departure from what I normally hear Can one of you guys/gals tell me what is being used? The delays are obvious and the verbs and space are very lush and clear - it never sounds washed out to me but I can hear tons of it - maybe someone here worked on this? The Reign Of Kindo on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos The Reign Of Kindo
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/15 17:00:24
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Hard to say, it could be almost anyones setup. Some very nice mixing and stereo feild placement of the parts. I'd like to say T.C. Electronics but I'd just be guessing.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/15 19:44:07
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Thanks for turning me on to this music. I just bought the CD. Good stuff.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/15 22:45:12
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Not sure what the question is but there are layers of heavier compression and lighter compression on various tracks which builds depth. Add the delay and reverb which is EQd in the right places and you get the whole. The vocal chain sounds like a high quality mic, pre and compressor. Hope that helps. On that second track, a high quality delay or verb. Lexicon or Bricasti kind of sound.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/16 00:44:18
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There could be any number of specific pieces at play here but the basic technique with the delay and verb is pretty simple to replicate. I'm not convinced it's really all that high quality of a verb; it's just all washed through a couple of layers, which can really deepen a simple reverb into something uber-wet without being too splashy. And while I admit it's something of a guess, it sounds like the reverb itself may be being compressed and then that wet signal routed to the delay. The reverb is made a little extra present which is keeping it from stepping on the vocal and muddying the water. Definitely quality mics and pres at play here. Good tracks.
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D K
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/16 11:01:13
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BlindDog There could be any number of specific pieces at play here but the basic technique with the delay and verb is pretty simple to replicate. I'm not convinced it's really all that high quality of a verb; it's just all washed through a couple of layers, which can really deepen a simple reverb into something uber-wet without being too splashy. And while I admit it's something of a guess, it sounds like the reverb itself may be being compressed and then that wet signal routed to the delay. The reverb is made a little extra present which is keeping it from stepping on the vocal and muddying the water. Definitely quality mics and pres at play here. Good tracks. Thanks BlindDog, That's kind of what I was looking for - maytbe it is the compression on the reverb returns that is giving it that so wet yet so clear sound. I am not sure how high quality the verbs and delays are but the technique is terrific - love the way this whole thing sounds
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/06/16 17:06:39
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Only had a chance to listen on laptop speakers at low volume, but that vocal does sound very smooth - nice gear used to record this. I'd guess at saying it could almost be as simple as just a really long reverb quite low in the mix. Longer reverbs I find can be set incredibly low in the mix but still sound very audible and spacious, while retaining lots of up front sound. For example even just 1% wet on a nice hall reverb can sound very noticeable. I find it's not enough resolution to get the verb level right when working with that, a buss is needed for more accurate tuning. It does also sound like the verb sound was chosen vary carefully and nicely eqed to make it fit in nicely. I can't hear properly with these speakers, but probably had a significant predelay as well. As well as that delay, it's possibly just as simple as tuning those reverb parameters.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/02 00:49:11
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Wow, absolutely fabulous music!!
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/02 02:19:25
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Im thinking they did a good jobs sweeping out the low end on the reverbs, so you just get the higher frequencies that dont muddy up or wash out the music- And the instrument placement and eq/compression etc. is well done- I also enjoy this wet sound now and then- I listen to KCRW often at night here in L.A., and they play non typical stuff, not top 40 type stuff, eclectic good music, often with more reverb and such like this- Gotta give it up to this recording- It is nice ;)
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/02 20:01:08
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I hear a significant delay on the lead vocal with a reverb patch as well. A fair amount of delay on the guitars also. The rest of the tracks aren't that wet to me. Perhaps a global ambience on a number of tracks. The piano is stereo mic'd which makes it fairly large in the mix. some of the sustain on the piano may be the sustain pedal and not so much a reverb patch. it gets gets fairly stacatto in places with only a subtle reverb. the drums don't seem that 'verb to me. You can open up a lot of space in a mix by using delays to create ambience and use reverbs sparingly. Also EQ on the delay and reverb returns can keep each reverb sound unique to signals driving them, while leaving more space in the mix.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/02 21:25:59
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D K I have been listening to this band for the last month or so... I am just enamored with how wet and still clear this entire record is... Not being a fan of the overly dry and upfront sound that seems so popular - this recording is really a departure from what I normally hear Can one of you guys/gals tell me what is being used? The delays are obvious and the verbs and space are very lush and clear - it never sounds washed out to me but I can hear tons of it - maybe someone here worked on this? The Reign Of Kindo on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos The Reign Of Kindo There may one be one verb it sounds like it's on the main bus because it is on everything by about the same amount. The piano has the top end taken off it so only the verb adds shimmer... nice.
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/02 22:14:55
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I think the thing the OP is really responding to is simply the musicianship. It's quite good even if it is a bit formulaic. As far as efx... IMO it's super compressed, eq'd to sound thin and hi-fi-Y, and obviously heavily treated with delays and verb. Having said that I think the band would sound freaking great with just about any mixing approach. I think that because these folks are obviously really good at song writing. The lead singer is excellent and the fact that the other two guys have great vocal tone fleshes out the sound without sounding like layers of double tracks. The harmonies built off the piano parts are lovely. The drummer knows his job. The guitars are humbly acting in support. And... and this is a big "And"... these guys obviously have listened to their record collections. The songs all sound immediately familiar and great songs and great artists come to mind as I listen. The Brian Eno influence is either obvious or not... it just depends if you know how many bands he has worked with. best regards, mike
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Re:Need to borrow your ears..
2010/07/08 11:38:03
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yeah this band rocks, wow! going to buy a few songs, thanks!
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