Vandal Guitar Amp Sim

>"All I want to tell you is that this is the BEST sounding amp sim out there. "

I have to disagree. I find it completely mediocore. TH1, studio devil and amplitube3 are far superior, FAR superior. Plus vandal crashes so much that it's infuriating... as a result, I don't use it at all.

Y6...

Of course "the best" is totally subjective as is your disagreement. I offer my opinion for other peeps who may respect such opinion.  For those who don't know me or disagree, I am totally in agreement with your opinion.

Jim


PS - I have and own all the AT products (AT3, FENDER and AMPEG) as well as TH1.. I like them both as well.

What other amp sims have you tried that you base this opinion on?

jkleban


Y6...

Of course "the best" is totally subjective as is your disagreement. I offer my opinion for other peeps who may respect such opinion.  For those who don't know me or disagree, I am totally in agreement with your opinion.

Jim


PS - I have and own all the AT products (AT3, FENDER and AMPEG) as well as TH1.. I like them both as well.

let's get real about vandal: the fx pedals are hokey, worse than the worst of the danelectro. there's a brute force feel (in relation to the programming) that is just rank amateur. they have no feeling, so spirit, just brute force ugly. it's like they were programmed in synthedit. yuck.

removing the pedals from the equation and just using the amp, the distortion sound synthized. there's some kind of band pass filter vibe that make vandal sound cheap... and no matter what i do i can't get rid of that tone. it feels dead.

i was going to point out a few good presets, but i went thru them and nothing stood out. perhaps you'd like to point one or two presets out that you feel deserve you unrestrained praise of "THE BEST" sounding amp sim.

and now that i've refamiliarized with vandal, i've changed my evaluation of it: i hate it. it sounds bad, not mediocre, BAD. i compared it to a few more amp sims: mellowhead sounds better, acmebargig shred sounds better, kuassa sounds better, revalver sounds better, guitar rig v1,2,3,4 all sound better, even waves gtr sounds better.

the best amp sim is studio devil virtual guitar amp (v1.4). this amp sim sounds exactly like a real amp. its response is faster than any other amp sim, so playing it is more enjoyable. and its tone has bite. no synth sound at all. yes, there are amp sims that sound better at one particular style, like revalver for that peavey metal sound, but overall the studio devil is the best. best sound, best response, best tone, best feel, best everything. the successor to this amp sim, StudioDevil Amp Modeler Pro, has too much crap in it and it lost some of the tone & response time, so it's not as good.

2nd best is amplitube3. i'm not a big fan of the previous amplitube sims, but AT3 really kicks butt. some presets are epic. i applaud them for going the extra mile to come up with some really great presets... only AT3 and (2nd) guitar rig have produced some damn nice presets. everyone else, meh, not so much.

so defend your exorbitant, exaggerated opinion: give me 1 or 2 vandal presets you find exceptional and i'll easily find several other amp sims that slay vandal to its knees. here's the perfect analogy to vandal: 4front truepianos. there's a bunch of tonedeaf fanboys who just love it to death, but A/B that vile crap with a sampled piano and it is instantly apparent just how bad trupianos is. it sounds synthy, the tone is warbly, thin, weak and just poor. everything which can be said about vandal too.

and you assertion that "it's just your opinion" is bullcrap. anyone can pick out the better sims, if they're compared properly. make the test a blind test and even you will vote vandal down. i say that with confidence because vandal is that bad.  

ugh. seriously where do you get off uber-hyping this crappy amp sim when you don't even care about guitars all that much. c'mon, admit it, you do techno and you don't even play guitar, you just pump midi into RealStrat or LPC and route the output thru vandal. 

actually this all makes perfect sense because vandal has the same vibe of a real guitar amp as an 808 beatbox has vibe of a real drumkit. LOL. if you were to put in an "in your face" (as you call it) guitar on your loops, it would frighten all your rob papen arpeggiated 8bit sounding synths, stomp on their entrails and reduce them to sounding like 4bits. and that's why you love vandal, because it's weak and wimpy digital synthy sound doesn't have enough testosterone to stand up and assert itself. you like it because it sucks.

it's all so simple: just state your prejudices up front so we know where you're coming from and this misunderstanding can be completely avoided. if you had put "vandal is great for techno" i wouldn't have even clicked on the link, but when your guitar ignorant ass speaks as if you're THE authority on guitar sounds for guitarists, you certainly had to know it would provoke an indignant response. troll. maybe you're a paid shill from magix, since your post had the feel of a corporate astroturfing effort. you know like everything on kvraudio forum, where someone spammed a nearly identical post as yours. it's pretty tedious to hear the constant phony praise on kvr as those whores talk up every new product of their advertisers. it's the only forum i know where the advertisers outnumber the other users 2 to 1, and outpost them 10 to 1. don't turn this forum into kvr.

jkleban


y6,

When it comes to me, you don't know what you are talking about.

Jim

One only has to look at your blog to see the comments about Techno were way wide of the mark. I am look forward to having a good browse and listen.

No wonder people hesitate to post here.  Wow!

One only has to look at your blog to see the comments about Techno were way wide of the mark. I am look forward to having a good browse and listen.

Good luck ..........................


 I tried to get demo and I just kept downloading corrupt files with missing dll's

Well, after all the drama this thread brought on, I figured I had to try it.  And, after playing around with it for an hour or so, I think it has some pretty good tones (Both clean and dirty).  I'm sure that giving it a thorough work out would yield even better results (just from familiarity of the program).  I plan on using it for the next 7 days though to see what happens.
 
Overall, though, I still prefer Amplitube 3 (which I didn't care for all that much at first, btw) by a pretty wide margin.  However, your results may vary!

I don't particularly need another amp sim, but y6's vituperative post makes me wonder..........I may demo it just to see........whether I like it or not, Jim is certainly entitled to his opinion, for crying out loud