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2010/06/21 16:27:48 (permalink)

Euphony vs. Cacophony

Or, your thoughts on: Simple poetic vs. boisterous jumbo.
 
Noobs and advanced noobs could share their thoughts and/or ideals for their music ...

Philip  
(Isa 5:12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD)

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/21 17:29:14 (permalink)

  Euphony....  Wow that's nice
  Cacophony.....    Bad attitude.
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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/21 18:03:51 (permalink)
when I read the title, I knew before I looked that this was a Philip thread! 

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/22 01:42:11 (permalink)
Yeah!  I'm guessing someone's really gonna take a bite ... sooner than later. 

How about these bad-attitude lyrics? (a kid had to explain the contradictions to me); this song is just not right: 

I come from Alabama
With my banjo on my knee
I'm going to Louisiana,
My true love for to see

It rained all night
The day I left
The weather it was dry
The sun so hot,
I froze to death
Susanna, don't you cry

Oh, Susanna,
Oh don't you cry for me
For I come from Alabama
With my banjo on my knee



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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/22 08:05:51 (permalink)
I'll be back.. I'm off to read stuff.

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/22 08:33:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
I think the answer is to simply consider the two root words:

Eu = Good

Caco = Bad


I never really compared the two words... and now I am entertained by the notion that some forms of music (e.g. Second Line Jazz bands) can be both Cacophonic and Euphonic simultaneously... although it sort of suggests anyone who thinks so may be marching to the beat of a different drummer.

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mike




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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/23 06:39:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
The thing is, what is euphonic and cacophonic is very subjective and it varies between people and cultures. The music of different cultures, extant and extinct have always been exploring the wide spectrum of sounds, including with the number of chromatic steps to an octave.
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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/23 17:29:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Oh, Philip, it's easy for you to talk about, but Oh Suzanna gave me my very first bout of existential angst when I was in 5th grade (yes, that was 1963). I agonized over those lyrics! And now you make light of them!

Don't worry, I eventually got over it, with the help of psychiatry and good drugs

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/23 18:47:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
it's quite easy, Euphonix only works on Mac...

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/23 22:38:09 (permalink)
Joan, Mike, Mcourter and MGH,

Yeh, my daughter's name is Suzanna (from the rebel state, I'm afraid) ... the kid that 'enlightened' me ... while I tried to play my guitar in some absurd banjoic manner. 

I had hoped by now that this thread had devolved into psychedelia-vs-metal wars
... or, at the very least, some country-vs.-hiphop bashings.

Last night (while roller skating) I couldn't help but notice everything was hip-hop and no country (... a bit strange for my rebel state, AL) ...
 
Caleb, my 19 y/o stated that he "can't skate (or dance) to country music without tripping and falling."
post edited by Philip - 2010/06/23 22:48:16

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/24 08:13:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpful

I had hoped by now that this thread had devolved into psychedelia-vs-metal wars
... or, at the very least, some country-vs.-hiphop bashings.


oh, ok then, that country music is rubbish, pop music is just manufactured auto-tuned parp, jazz? - nah, tres uncool, hip-hop, well where's the musical talent, they don't even sing most of the time, cack-ophony...whereas this is clearly musically sublime and true euphony!

(BTW i don't like that band at all, it's just an example of musical wankery of the most boring kind, just as this is an unsubtle attempt at irony, or is it sarcasm?)
post edited by mgh - 2010/06/24 08:14:39

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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/24 12:02:40 (permalink)
mgh



I had hoped by now that this thread had devolved into psychedelia-vs-metal wars
... or, at the very least, some country-vs.-hiphop bashings.


oh, ok then, that country music is rubbish, pop music is just manufactured auto-tuned parp, jazz? - nah, tres uncool, hip-hop, well where's the musical talent, they don't even sing most of the time, cack-ophony...clearly musically sublime and true euphony!

(BTW i don't like that band at all, it's just an example of musical wankery of the most boring kind, just as this is an unsubtle attempt at irony, or is it sarcasm?)
Well I got through about 3 minutes of this ... which was a lot like your metal (I love yours a lot more ... as I've read your lyrics 'driving' your passion)
 
Yesterday (before reading your post), in an attempt to increase cacophony in my percussive hyper-euphony ... 
 
... I ordered Toontrack's Library of the Extreme - Blasts & Fills MIDI's by Dirk Verbeuren.  I'm still unsure if I should $plurge ($89) for the:
 
1) Drumkit From Hell EZX (Swedish, cutesey, and artificial sounding to my ears),
2) Claustrophobic EZX (hip-hoppish ... also cutesey artificial sounding to my ears),
3) or the Twisted Kit EZX ... which, at least, has original/unique sounds.
 
... to compliment the spooks of Dirk Verbeuren.  Something tells me, none of the above compliments him that well; I think his examples employe the standard Avatar (Superior2) and EZD Pop kits ... which suits my croniness. 
 
... despite Verbeuren's apparent 'gothic spook' ... Verbeuren is far more convincing than the euphonic Peter Fredlander's (who sounds like Karen Carpenter from Hades (... who's 'only just begun' (... though I love that song (...etc.)))).
 
His trans-meter stuff works well in 6/8 sections as well as 4/4.  (Which is still my level)
 
Gothic spook vs. politically correct: both reprobations have their followers.
 
But gothic spook may be rapidly becoming politically correct ... in the manner that hip hop has become the reasonable standard for roller skating.
 
Personally, I don't vote for politicians (ever ... (and, yeh, I'll gripe about our politicians almost as much as the Chr!st did (oops!  Sorry to ramble ...))).

Philip  
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Re:Euphony vs. Cacophony 2010/06/24 18:10:00 (permalink)
OK then,


Check this out: http://www.timesonline.co...res/article6858884.ece and try to search out the accompanying video clips from the episode described in the article... it was belly bouncing hilarious.

On another note, I have a work mate who knows and sings along with the lyrics for every country song on the charts. He is into "country". I like to bring CDs of real country to stretch his sensibilities enough so that if he ever meets someone else who likes country he will not embarrass himself. So I bring all the great stuff from the fifties and sixties. Last week I blew his mind... I brought Sweetheart of the Rodeo and turned it up for a long drive down the interstate. Big Time!

But I like Rap ok too... mainly the older militant stuff.

Lets get it on.
post edited by mike_mccue - 2010/06/24 18:11:30


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