estebanworld
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Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
hello. I finished all the mixing, it sounds fine, so next I will master it with Ozone. So I will mix it all down to one WAV file, open up a new project, add ozone and master it. HERE COMES THE QUESTION. Is it OK to export to WAV with the same parameters as the project (48Khz/24 BIT), NO DITHER? Or does it have to be higher? I know that I will "dither it down" to 16 bit at the end with ozone... ALSO, the new project in which I will master.. What should the number of Bits and Audio Sampling be? Also the same as the original project? Thanks, I hope it makes sense.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/12 22:36:26
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I usually export the Mix at the project rate and add it to the tracks at the bottom. That way I have a mixed version w/ the project. I then make a copy of it to "master" with and put it a separate folder/hard drive. So yes, I master from the same bits and rate as the mix project. @
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/12 23:55:47
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Yes, leave it at the highest rate/project rate and export it without dither. Dither comes at the end along with the downsampling to 44.1/16.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 00:46:51
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Is it OK to export to WAV with the same parameters as the project (48Khz/24 BIT), NO DITHER? Or does it have to be higher? If you're going to be importing the file into another SONAR project (or some other tool) for mastering, you may as well leave it in its native format, e.g. 32 or 64 bits. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference, but there just isn't any need to truncate to 24 bits unless your mastering software can't handle floating-point files.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 08:17:08
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I normally take the lazy man's way and pop O4 into the master buss and "master" from within the project. That seems to work just fine. I have done as you say, and export the wav and then import it to a new project and polish from there. The advantage to exporting first is that the new "mastering project" has only one FX to deal with in real time so the resources are generally available to run it without a strain. Exporting to a mastering project..... just use the same parameters as the project.... the one that counts is the final export because that one should be compatible with commercial CD player standards so it will play on all the players out there. I record in 24 bit and always export to 44.1 @ 16
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 10:02:16
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One way to keep the file tree simple: Bounce the mix to one stereo track inside the project. Then archive or mute (depending on your PC power) all the other tracks and do the mastering and exporting normally. The advantage of this is that you can very fluently create a new mix on a new track, if you need to, master it and compare. This is exactly the same as exporting and then importing to another project for mastering, except that with this method you have a more simple file tree and all mix versions in the same place more easily reachable.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 13:49:20
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THANKS GUYS!!! I couldn't do what Kalle Rantaaho suggests because of computer power... but it sounds good. thanks again!
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 19:20:57
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You misunderstood something, Esteban. If you archive the unnecessary tracks you can do it with any computer, but if you have plenty of horsepower you don't need to archive.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 21:15:29
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Yeah .... Kalle is correct. When you don't need a track in a project you should Archive it. If you simply MUTE it, the track and all it's plugs are still processed by your computer and therefore CPU resources are used even though you are not hearing the track..... However..... when you archive a track, ALL of the plugs and things associated with that track are exempted from the processing loop and resources are available to do other things in the project.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 22:29:19
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This isn’t your approach so it probably won’t help but I thought I’d share … I record 48/24 in Sonar and the export my mix 48/24 to a wav file. I then “premaster” in Sony’s CDArchitect (the $99 version) where I sometimes use the Ozone 4 Plug-in. CDArchitect dithers by default so if I use the dither in Ozone I just have to make sure I remove Sony’s dithering plug. When I burn a CD it burns as 44/16.
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Re:Exporting BEFORE mastering -- how to?
2010/07/13 23:07:06
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Kalle Rantaaho One way to keep the file tree simple: Bounce the mix to one stereo track inside the project. Then archive or mute (depending on your PC power) all the other tracks and do the mastering and exporting normally. The advantage of this is that you can very fluently create a new mix on a new track, if you need to, master it and compare. This is exactly the same as exporting and then importing to another project for mastering, except that with this method you have a more simple file tree and all mix versions in the same place more easily reachable. +1 to this approach. Other advantages are you can master different versions for different requirements and keep them all together. Also if you need to come back to the file at some point in the future everything is in the same place no rummaging around the hard drive trying to remember where the various sub-projects went. Even if you use and external app. to do the mastering you can still import the final stereo file produced by your mastering app. back into the main project for storing it all together. Use Sonar's File info to document the project too as you may be able to remember what your thinking was next week but 6 months down the line you'll likely be scratching your head as to why you did this or that in the project. The drawback to keeping everything together of course is if you lose the file or it gets corrupted you've lost the lot, but that shouldn't matter too much as we all have good long term back-up strategies here by now, don't we?
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