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2010/07/16 21:24:01 (permalink)

Adding another interface

I am thinking of adding another interface to my setup since i have long since run out of inputs for my kit. Some of my mics are doing double/triple duty and im sure all of you can understand how much of a pain that can be.

I already have an alesis io-26 firewire and love it but it has been discontinued. So i am thinking of getting a Presonus Firestudio Tube  and will want to run these together into sonar for recording. What kind of problems do any of you forsee in setting this up. My pc is custom built and very powerful and im guessing theoretically this will work???

If anyone else is running 2 interfaces how do you set it up and what should i use as the clock master, If i run them in series im also guessing I should use the first in the chain(pc) or should i run them into separate firewire ports on my pc...or does it even matter
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/16 23:28:08 (permalink)
    ASio won't work - it can only use 1 driver at a time.  PreSonus, among other companies, allow you to gang their interfaces uses ASIO I think so the driver sees them as one big unit.  So buy 2 Presonus units.

    WDM can combine two interfaces if you wordclock them - probably.  You won't know until you try the two brands.

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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 00:34:11 (permalink)
    I guess what i will do is get one for now and see what i can do and if no go i will sell the io-26 and get another Firestudio Tube. Sucks though....the io-26 had been great to me.

     
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 11:25:22 (permalink)
    I have another question as far as interfaces go, more of a preference.

    I was thinking of getting the Firestudio tube but also am looking at the  Saffire PRO 40 and am kind of stuck in deciding on which to get.

    Anybody have any ideas or input on either, I might just post another thread on this question.

    Thanks 

     
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 12:10:20 (permalink)
    If you get 2 interfaces, they need to be the same exact make and model, if your going to be using both for recording.

    This is because of the clocking. Even though each sound card says its recording at 44.1, 48, or 96kHz, they fluctuate just a tiny winy bit. So by getting 2 of the same exact models, they will fluctuate the same. If you get 2 different models, you will notice a clocking/timing issue

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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 12:26:21 (permalink)
    Well that just plain sucks but i figured as much, just like 2 pc's never clock the same.

    I have been reading and found my io-26 uses DICE-II and so does the PRO-40 and hoped that might have a bearing on it, but I'm still up in the air about which one to get. I might just go with the PRO-40 just to see what I can do with it.Problem is, I will still be short on inputs until I can get the second matching unit if the clocking is too far off( i will be tracking drums only).

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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 12:58:13 (permalink)
    The preamps in the Pro 40 are great. There are 8 of them. It also has line inputs, so if you have any preamps, you can record more than 8 tracks. 
    You can record 9, 10, 11, 12 to 16 tracks at one time. If you have the preamps.
    That's something to think about. Even a little art preamp that cost $29 would do, just to get an extra microphone tracked..
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 13:15:33 (permalink)
    Hmmm i might just look into that.

     I understand what you mean but had no idea of that concept. My io-26 has 8 inserts only and im guessing that i can not route them to a separate track even if i could use them. I really like the 2 extra tube inputs on the Firestudio but it sounds like PRO-40 has less problems and better support.



     
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/17 14:34:13 (permalink)
    Just so you look at all the options, I'm using a Tascam US 1641 I bought for $300.
    http://pro-audio.musician...rface?sku=245002 
    I have been recording 8 channels of drums plus Guitar etc for a total of 13 inputs with no problem. It will input 16 channels if you use the digital ins as well. It has 8 xlrs and 6 TRS and the digital.  The pre amps are not bad for the price point,  Just don't try and use the Phantom power when a sub mixer is in line.
    For the price you could by 2 of them and have 32 channels!

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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/19 11:35:23 (permalink)
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    I am thinking of adding another interface to my setup since i have long since run out of inputs for my kit. Some of my mics are doing double/triple duty and im sure all of you can understand how much of a pain that can be.

    I already have an alesis io-26 firewire and love it but it has been discontinued. So i am thinking of getting a Presonus Firestudio Tube  and will want to run these together into sonar for recording. What kind of problems do any of you forsee in setting this up. My pc is custom built and very powerful and im guessing theoretically this will work???

    If anyone else is running 2 interfaces how do you set it up and what should i use as the clock master, If i run them in series im also guessing I should use the first in the chain(pc) or should i run them into separate firewire ports on my pc...or does it even matter


    Using two interfaces can be done but it adds complexity and points of failure to your setup. It also means sending your clock down a wire. If possible get a single interface with the amount of I/O you need.  Many interfaces have lots of digital I/O (ADAT Lightpipe) that will let you add more channels of I/O.  You still have to deal with clock but at least there is only one driver. 

    As for brands Presonus is not the best for driver support. Even Focusrite is doing a better job these days. The tried and true ones are RME, Echo, M-Audio, MOTU, Focusrite.  If you can afford it get the RME Fireface 800, it's really the "known good thing" in the industry both for sound and driver support.
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/24 18:14:00 (permalink)
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    If you get 2 interfaces, they need to be the same exact make and model, if your going to be using both for recording......

    Hi CJ

    Does this apply to WDM use?


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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/24 22:14:16 (permalink)
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    If you get 2 interfaces, they need to be the same exact make and model, if your going to be using both for recording......

    Hi CJ

    Does this apply to WDM use?


    Zipps


    No, you can use more then one with WDM drivers because you can have more then one driver active at a time. However, you still need to get sample rate clock from one to the other. So if they don't have a digital interface in common you still can't get it to work right.

    By the way having the same brand and model still doesn't mean the driver will use both of them. You need to check with the vendor and confirm the driver supports more then one.  If the driver is multi unit in some cases you can even use different models. I think MOTU does that.
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/25 07:47:11 (permalink)
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    Re:Adding another interface 2010/07/29 17:13:54 (permalink)
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    No, you can use more then one with WDM drivers because you can have more then one driver active at a time. However, you still need to get sample rate clock from one to the other. So if they don't have a digital interface in common you still can't get it to work right.

    By the way having the same brand and model still doesn't mean the driver will use both of them. You need to check with the vendor and confirm the driver supports more then one.  If the driver is multi unit in some cases you can even use different models. I think MOTU does that.

    Thanks Frank

    Much appreciated



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